Difficult bomb pot

Seems like he's repping clubs on top and 2P on bottom. So, Q5cc or Q3cc, maybe 53cc. Could be Jc9x, top 2P with a redraw on top, OESD on bottom. Could also be another KJ combo. Could be some QT combo with the Qc.

Think the play is to either fold or jam and make him play for all of it, not that I think we have much fold equity.

We should probably fold. The hands he's repping have us in pretty bad shape.

You're really wanting to see the river on both boards, you had the chance to do so for free and did not against a better player. That's why he's a better player, putting others in really tough spots. Don't give him that opportunity.

I would 100% check the flop and/or turn.

As played, I’m probably calling.

I don't mind thinning out the field, but I see little value in betting turn. AP we have to call, we have a lot of equity even if currently being scooped. But with two draws and nothing made on either board, bloating the pot isn't a goal.

True enough. AcQc / AcJx have us crushed.

Hard to find a hand for V that we can beat and wants to raise turn.

snap fold?

My general approach towards double-board bomb pots is looking towards piling in $ when we have extremely strong equity on both boards or having one board close to locked up. On the turn our hand looks to have middling equity on both boards. Given we have position I prefer checking back and realizing our equity - especially vs this player type who we perceive as stronger will have Axcc traps and may use the reasonable c/r semi-bluffing naked Ac combo which both have our hands in rough shape.

A common play I see good regs make when you get heads up in these types of bomb pots is to pile money in when they have one board nearly locked up. They might potentially have nothing on the other board. They can bluff you off of a chop a lot. That's not necessarily what's happening here, but it's worth considering.

Anyway that observation is only vaguely related to this exact hand.

Here like others said I would have preferred checking back turn to pot control, especially after you picked up some showdown value up top.

As played I think you have to call. You just have too much equity on both boards. Especially in position where he will jam into you sometimes after you make like the second nuts and nuts, you have to call. You're calling $145 for a pot that will be $590 and you have additional implied odds if you improve. Your pot odds are too good and after the check raise it's an easy call, IMO.

I would only consider folding to a river jam if you completely brick both boards. Given how big the pot will be at that point (~600ish with $250 more behind) even picking up like a king on the bottom board to give you top pair just makes it too likely that you win at least one board with you already having the pair of jacks on the top board. You would be calling $250 for a total pot of $1100 so you only need to win one pot or the other half the time to make the call.

Doc is really going worst case scenario imagining that he has extremely strong hands on both boards.

Anyway going back to the turn, this is why you check back. You really don't want to face a check raise, but IMO you can't really fold.

Looking on the bright side, the nice thing is that with the right runout and depending what he has you could potentially scoop and win on both boards.

We have a middling hand with plenty of potential against an aggro villain. All signs point to check.

everyone wants to check back now that they know they're getting x/raised, armchair life.

Turn - we call

River 590 -

Board 1: 9c 6c 2c Jd 4h
Board 2: Qx Tc 3y 5z Kx

V shoves for our 250 remaining... we have TP on both boards

Once you call turn you have already decided you will call this river or you made a call based on hitting an 7 outer on the bottom or a 8 outer to a possible dead hand on the top. If that was all you were calling for you did not get good enough odds to call.

Call obv. We are not armchair quarterbacks, our hand isn’t great and we had reads on V we ignored.

Check flop. 1/3 sizing doesn't seem good either.

As played, check turn.
As played whether to call turn xr seems close.

River call fine as played.

Funny the run out was exactly what I gave as a sort of minimum required to make the river call mandatory, and that's what I do (call). As I said in my post above, given the pot odds on the river you only have to win one pot or the other less than half the time.

That being said if I had to guess I would predict your opponent had J9 and you lost both boards... People don't make threads as often about hands like this when they win. That doesn't mean it was a bad call in the long run though.

Anyway going back to the turn, there's something else no one has discussed and that's the sizing. I said I agreed with others and that I preferred a check. If I were to bet I would go bigger though, probably like $150 to set up a pot sized shove on the river. If you're going to semi-bluff you might as well sell your story of a nutted type hand. Wouldn't you bet bigger if you really had it? Your bet sizing makes your hand look like what it is, a hand that's a little scared to put more in. I feel like you would get a lot more fold equity with the bigger sizing and you're less likely to get raised. The problem is if he does raise it's probably a jam, which brings us full circle to why it's better to just check the turn. I really don't like the $75 sizing though.

I'm not meaning to pile on with criticism. I just don't see you making that turn bet with that sizing ever given the draw-heavy boards if you actually had a very strong hand.