Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa
That would be an ecumenical matter.
Could you please share with us an example of a 'religious claim' that is typically believed by Christians and/or Jews that can be refuted by logic?
Thanks.
What does refuted by logic mean?
Also not sure I agree with you on the PoE. I think it still applies to some accounts of God but not others. Namely a God that is maximally good and maximally efficacious in bringing about its own desires.
As far as football knowledge I am right at the top. The problem is I'm not part of the odd click they have going on there. It's a few poker players who think they know ball. They are mostly "solver bros" who think the games we play are against robots. They still argue that getting to within 8 is not a one possession game. They say the game has been solved. I'm curious what your opinion on what should be considered a one possession game.
They still argue that getting to within 8 is not a one possession game. They say the game has been solved. I'm curious what your opinion on what should be considered a one possession game.
Nobody knows what this means and nobody believes you that there are NFL fans out there that think 1st and goal at the opponents 1 with 10 seconds left down by 9 or 10 is pretty much the same as down by 8. We all think you were not smart enough to understand what they actually said and you are just repeating garbled nonsense.
It’s tragic mongo wastes so much of his precious time posting on forums he finds to be stupid
Could you please share with us an example of a 'religious claim' that is typically believed by Christians and/or Jews that can be refuted by logic?
Thanks.
Logic is not the right tool for determining facts from fiction. But the story presented in Luke that Jesus was born in Bethlehem because of a Roman census is clearly ridiculous and many christians even will say it didn't happen. That Luke and Mathew contradict each other on why they ended up in Nazareth, where they went from Bethlehem after Jesus was born etc don't really help matters. I would say the fact that 2 authors come up with seemingly independent but convoluted explanations from why Jesus was born in Bethlehem but associated with Nazareth is pretty good evidence that Jesus was from Nazareth and claimed to be the Messiah though. Ironically all the shoehorning of messianic prophecy by early christians is not not even needed anymore as modern christians don't even view jesus as just the promised messiah but god himself. God becoming human had no expectations or reasonable prophecies in 2nd temple or modern judaism which helps explain why christianity had so much more success converting pagans for whom worshiping a man was not so taboo as opposed to Jews.
Persistence of human identity after death (though I think that is more of a Christian than a Jewish thing).
I don't see how that's a logical objection. Even some atheist philosophers have argued that their atheism doesn't preclude the possibility of entering a different/new realm of existence after physical death on Earth. Only a strict Physicalist would hold that to be a logical impossibility.
My brother in Christ, I'd be amazed if you could pick a masterlock. You are very, very stupid person and locks will keep you out for sure.
Aren't Masterlocks considered generally pretty easy, even shoddy? I swear I've seen LPL tear through them before.
I own picks and have had success before but in general I suck at lockpicking.
Caveat - I took up lockpicking as a hobby in uni. Insert Nixon "I am not a crook" here.
What does refuted by logic mean?
Also not sure I agree with you on the PoE. I think it still applies to some accounts of God but not others. Namely a God that is maximally good and maximally efficacious in bringing about its own desires.
Good question. I didn't introduce that notion into the conversation.
I assume it means than the purported attributes of God are not logically consistent.
It makes sense that reasoning =/= logic to geezerchess 😃
What a travesty. Chuck posting not with one but with two accounts, raping the concept of logic by willfully ignoring it for the glory of invisible sky daddy, who enjoys children getting molested by priests.
Aren't Masterlocks considered generally pretty easy, even shoddy? I swear I've seen LPL tear through them before.
I own picks and have had success before but in general I suck at lockpicking.
Caveat - I took up lockpicking as a hobby in uni. Insert Nixon "I am not a crook" here.
Right. I'm not sure I understand the question. I chose Masterlock precisely because it's so easy to pick.
Nobody knows what this means and nobody believes you that there are NFL fans out there that think 1st and goal at the opponents 1 with 10 seconds left down by 9 or 10 is pretty much the same as down by 8. We all think you were not smart enough to understand what they actually said and you are just repeating garbled nonsense.
This is correct. What was actually going on that discussion is that people were factoring in the possibility that a team would need more than one possession to make up an 8-point spread because of a missed two point conversion (or missed extra point).
The problem of evil makes some gods implausible and even offensive sillyness but it isn't logically inconsistent.
There’s at least 40,000 denominations of Christianity and a thousand different translations of the Bible just in English (notably not the original language for most books). Then of course, there’s the extensive canonical debates where folks can’t even agree how many books count as The Real Bible™.
Could be an awkward conversation at the pearly gates if you didn’t pick the correct version of Christianity, let alone the correct religion.
Logical debates with believers always eventually devolve into general hand waving of imponderables as a matter of “faith.”
There’s at least 40,000 denominations of Christianity and a thousand different translations of the Bible in English alone (notably not the original language for most books). Then of course, there’s the extensive canonical debates where folks can’t even agree how many books count as The Real Bible™.Could be an awkward conversation at the pearly gates if you didn’t pick the corre
"If you're not going to take pascal's wager then chose not to believe in the jewish god as then there's no hell if you lose"
