Totally lost my **** and yelled at an omc at the 2/3 today

I’m there to make money and enjoy my time, and getting into these situations takes away from that. I’m not immune to getting annoyed, but it helps I have a lot of tolerance for bullshit. I generally do not see any value in intervening with other people’s toxicity at the table, and so I try my best to ignore it.

Also, some people are really shitty and generally feed off these interactions, and so they’ll seek them out. There’s one player in my pool who pisses a lot of people off on purpose, and he’s real subtle/tactful about it. Not saying this was the case, but there’s a chance the OMC took satisfaction from your reaction. It’s super toxic, but poker attracts the worst people.

So unless it’s angling or something insane like calling someone a slur, I just try to ignore it. And if I can’t or if they’re massively slowing the game down, then I’ll switch tables for a bit, even if it’s to one that has a tougher line up.

There is nothing you can do to change people at this stage of their life. These behaviors are side effects of deeply rooted issues outside the poker table.

Look at it as character building for yourself. 😀

How often do you get up and reset during a session?

I wear headphones a lot, stay hydrated, try to walk around once per hour, and often just stand at the table. People may criticize this and say I’m missing out on hands, but it helps me maintain my A game for longer and also resets my tolerance for “casino people”.

You say he's an OMC. Perhaps he legit couldn't see the cards across the table.

Sure, being told it was KK should have been enough. It sounds as if he's one of those rules/procedures nits, wanted the dealer to apologize as well, and couldn't let it go.

If you bump into him again, apologize and say you were just having a bad time just then.

Most importantly, you recognized the problem and can try to improve from there. Good luck.

OMC got to you.... ha !

Happens to all of us from time to time, whether a OMC or a young "Pro" or a arrogant asszzzhole from age 18 to 98.....

Sometimes you just gonna get TILTED

As a reformed rules nit, I have a soft spot for OMC's. Many of their tantrums result from rules not being applied fairly/equally at all times.

Obviously not everyone saw the KK. But if the dealer had done what she should have, seat 9 wouldn't have had to say anything. I wouldnt be surpised if there is also history of the same, either with the dealer or in the room, so seat 9 feels the need to berate the point in an effort to correct the behavior.

If I have poor vision where I can't see the other end of the table clearly but can see the middle, and the middle is where the cards are supposed to be placed...it shouldn't be on me to remind people of my disability and ask for rules to be followed.

As for your behavior, you should be embarrassed. Yelling at anyone at the table, for any reason, is non-productive at best. Unlikely it was just an annoying OMC that triggered your reaction. I suspect it was just the proverbial straw on the camel's back. You should do some introspection to identify what made this interaction escalate to that level.

I suspect putting the cards into the middle of the table is not a rule, nor even a procedure, in the majority of rooms out there. (It happens to be the procedure in my room, but I believe it to be unusual.). In general players are responsible to protect their hands, and so should/will not let them out of their hands or area of control.

Nevertheless, if it is in fact the rule in that room, then obviously yes, the dealer should be doing so without request needed.

Once the hand is in the muck though, what else can be done about it other than the dealer telling the player what the hand was? He was belaboring the point for unknown reasons. Yes, the dealer also seemed to be missing the point perhaps. Perhaps there is more to the story between them. But as told, the other player was being a bit of an annoying dick far beyond what was required.

He hasn’t entered the game yet, does he even have a right to request to see cards? At this point he’s just a spectator. Doesn’t sound like being a rules nit, sounds like being a dick.

Most rooms I have played and dealt in do not have a procedure that implies putting showdown hands into the middle of the table. I do have plenty of experience with this demographic and usually it is a combination of things already stated, stuck in their ways, dealer beef, etc.

My go to when I was dealing was to oblige this type of request if it was the calling player or any player that was in the hand at showdown, anyone else I would ignore these request. I think some of these types of players get off on tilting players and being able to “control” dealers, in their mind them being there is the reason you have a job and you should accommodate.

If you really want to get under OMC skin tell him to get a seat change button and sit in the 5 which is usually for the visually impaired.

Don’t apologize, just slow roll him next time you get a chance 😉.

Back in the day the Imperial Palace in Las Vegas went through a short phase where they made their dealers put the winning hand in the middle of the table. The problem was, the dealer was supposed to do this BEFORE pushing the pot. This means the winning player had to release control of his hand before he was pushed the pot.

So there was more than one instance where a player won a pot tossed his cards forward face up so the dealer could put them in the middle of the table only to have the dealer kill them and put a different hand in the middle and start to push the pot to the wrong player. I think every instance I saw the correct player was eventually paid, but it resulted in extra floor calls and such. I amnsure that is why it was short lived.

It's no big deal. Next time you see him, apologize. He was slowing the game down and being slightly annoying -- sometimes it just grates you the wrong way. He probably realizes he was being annoying.

I'm a middle-aged woman and I've had a few similar situations (with me doing the "yelling"). I normally calm down or just get over it and we make up and go on 😉

Yeah, you were an ass and you do owe them an apology. I've seen this same situation. Player at the far end of the table shows their hand and there's a quick muck from the dealer. I don't want to repeatedly ask what was shown.

We can definitely tell who the annoying people are that slow down the game from getting their personal feelings hurt and empathizing with the insane old man that was acting like an ass.

Don’t apologize to him unless he’s a massive fish. He’s a misreg and they deserve to be yelled at every now and again.

I mean, people yelling at some old dude over this are probably the same people you see on videos blowing up and acting the fool at McDonald's because they didn't get their extra honey mustard sauce for their nuggets.

OP literally described the type of person that yells at the McDonalds cashier for forgetting their honey mustard. You think the guy yelling at the dealer for not putting cards in the middle isn’t that guy???

I dont mean to be this way but I mean really, who cares? He kind of deserved it, you were kind of a dick but everyone forgot an hour after they left. That doesnt mean you're embarrassment isn't valid. I've felt the same way many times but im saying what you did, unless you were screaming in his face isnt the worst.

Just apologize to the man next time you see him and explain you were having a rough day. All is well that ends well.

Dealer should put hands in the middle if possible, but I agree with who said it causes the possibility of getting the hands confused. I've seen it.

Btw, I cant believe ive been here for 20 years and am not sure what OMC means. Old....?

OMC - old man coffee. Tight elderly person who mostly only puts money in the pot with the nuts.

Just raise his big blind EVERY TIME, usually gets them to leave. Check raise works too, they hate that.

If I can't enjoy myself, I leave, and I'm the guy you want at your table. Lots of money, drinking and plays any two cards. Don't tap the glass.

Somehow check raising a player that in your words "mostly only puts money in the pot with the nuts" because you dislike them strikes me as a stupid strategy and despite your claim true OMCs in my experience love it. And I would much rather have a true OMC sitting to my left than you as I can play perfectly vs a true OMC.

key word - mostly. once again, the thread has devolved into personal attacks. Well done.

Whereas of course your slandering of OMCs and let's do this to drive them away from the game was perfectly OK. You are much worse than any OMC and hopefully they slaughter you. Also if you think that any OMC bluffs often enough as opposed to bets the near or actual nuts such that check raising is +ev are not very bright or have no idea how a true OMC plays.

Mod: ok fellas that’s enough of that

Just because you’d rather have a nit on your left doesn’t mean they are good for the game. The ev loss of an OMC is negligible, their strategy is to lose .5-1 bb an hour so they can play as much as possible. Breaking even or losing a bit is a good session for them.

But I agree that someone being an OMC is not enough to hate them, but the person in OP sounds absolutely miserable.

lol last night I did something I never do and completely lost it after an umpteenth bad beat against a table full of mouth-breathers who kept sucking out on me. I called them all "a table of ****ing retar*ed monkeys that I can't beat." Then I left.

I'm not proud and I know I want them doing exactly what they were doing, but sometimes you just lose your mind.

I did it the other night, too. I kept getting rivered and this guy was trying to console me by saying, "Sometimes I feel as if I'm just not very good." I was like, "Dude, I never feel that way. These donks keep hitting the river." He kept going, and I finally just yelled at him to SHUT THE F UP!!!

This is a friendly, local game. I felt bad later, but not bad enough to ever apologize. He was absolutely annoying. (Remember, I'm a grandmother. LOL.)

maybe he was hitting on you?

LOL. There was a time when that might have been true! Also, my husband was sitting between us 😉