Facing 3B on BTN

What sizing would you be using here to open after two limps?

Call and see a flop

Raise is too high with 2 limps and holding the button. I'd like to see a flop ordinarily. However the 3bet is an issue. The thing is that unless a K shows up, you're pretty stuck with calling the villain's flop bet if you call which is going to be close to all in. You might as well just shove pf at that point. Therefore, I'd fold to the 3bet.

3x the bb plus the limps ie another 4 on top

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With AQs its a pretty standard call, with AQo it is something you can mix. But if we think this V is getting out of line and might have more weak Ax than he should, that tips it to a call for me. With this size relative to the stacks, V should only be doing this with TT+ and suited broadways, AQo+ - about 5%-5.5% of the time. If he is probably wider than that, we should call.

Fold. You made an 8x iso raise and got 3bet. Aqo is boned.

I'm assuming the two limpers folded here?

Just replied to your other thread. Similar answer here. What we want to do somewhat depends on what we think his 3B'ing range looks like, and how he plays post - does he have a 3B-fold range, does he tend to c-bet flops close to 100%, etc.

4B-jamming is an option, if we think he's just screwing around, 3B'ing too much, even when he's in the BB. If there's any meta going on between us and him, that might factor into our decision one way or the other. I might not want to jam too light if he's been 3B'ing us more frequently than others.

Since we're starting a little deeper in this hand compared to the other you posted, and we'll have position post, we can probably call a little more often, especially if we have any reads about how he plays post, and / or if we think we have a skill edge post.

It can be frustrating when there's a player in the game who seems to be 3B'ing us relentlessly. It's hard to maneuver post with shallow SPR's, and so it's fine to over-fold pre with the more marginal parts of our opening range (like AQo here, and TT in your other thread).

From your OP's here and in the other thread, you say he's 3B'ing more than others, but it seems like you haven't seen him getting OOL. Is that because people aren't playing back at him, and we haven't seen a showdown with any of the hands he's 3B?

If we have any showdowns, that would help. If we know he's 3B'ing too wide from LP or the blinds, we can maybe push our equity a bit by jamming with some hands we might otherwise fold to his 3B's (like AQo and TT), and calling with some stronger hands, with plans to get stacks in when he over-commits post-flop.

FWIW - it's interesting that in both hands against this V, he's 3B'ing you in spots where he should have a fairly strong range in theory. In the TT hand, you opened UTG, which should be a strong range for you, and an even stronger range when he 3B's, even from the CO, because his 3B also has to get through a caller in MP. Here, you're opening from the BTN, but over two limps, and he's squeezing from the BB.

If you got a showdown in either of these hands, or in any other spots like this, where he should have a fairly strong 3B'ing range, and you saw that he was actually FOS and 3B'ing light, we could start exploiting him hard by just relentlessly 4B'ing him pre or raising over his flop c-bets. On the other hand, if he's had it every time, I'd exploit him by just over-folding to his 3B's.

Unless and until we get more info, I think my default would be to assume he's 3B'ing an appropriate range in these spots, because he's raising in spots where we'd be opening some hands that could comfortably 4B-jam on him. So, TT and AQo are just folds to his 3B's, at these stack depths.

I'm surprised by all saying pre is too large. Usual in low stakes (at least for me and many others here) is 5x BB + 1BB * limper. And we also have a button blind here, so 16 may be a tad larger, but not crazy large, and unlikely to make material difference. Also raise size is so table dependent.

As played unless we have some intel on BB, it's a fold to the 3b.

Telling me he 3bets often is something, but tell me he’s 3bet five times, everyone folded pre twice, one folded to a turn barrel, got to showdown once with KK, and another time showed AK when villain folded the river.

Has he picked you out as a target to 3bet, because he can make you fold? I’m always trying to narrow down the best candidates to bluff.

Does he keep firing the streets after 3betting?
It’s always tricky, but I don’t want to fight a war with TT or AQo. It’s a pretty big bet to call if you’re going to fold the flop most of the time.

Folding these hands early costs little compared to stacking off when dominated.

Yeah the other two folded

your analysis is really good the only hand I saw him showdown the whole time he was 3B was AK which was actually the same hand as my other post with 1010. I think a lot of players are not playing back at him, I am going to be watching his 3B hands more to see what he he showing down to try get some more Idea as the last two sessions I have played against him He has 3B me a couple of times I just happened to not be too strong in those hand

He's probably just had top of range against you a few times and it's just variance. Unlikely He's 3betting light.