[Bodog/Bovada/Ignition] Unofficial Thread
[Bodog/Bovada/Ignition] Unofficial Thread
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[Bodog/Bovada/Ignition] Unofficial Thread

This thread is to separate the Bovada-related comments and questions from the Official Bodog Support Thread, which is th

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21 December 2011 at 09:36 PM
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anyone have an issue with hand histories ? serve error in '/' application



by Rolled High, Bro m

Nothing here, but I'm an MTT player, I'm assuming everyone who got that mainly plays cash?

It's probably just the VIP level or whatever.

by MIAMI305 m

anyone have an issue with hand histories ? serve error in '/' application

Yeah I've had the same issue the last two days.


by transversal m

I'm having an issue with a portion of the client not being active. On the client, the left of the client has things like Cashier, Account and Settings.
This portion of the desktop client is grayed out for me. Anyone else having this issue?

Same here. Also, I can't access the desktop client without logging into the browser first.


by Gravy_Gecko m

Same here. Also, I can't access the desktop client without logging into the browser first.

That's not a bug, is a new measure they introduced (and that it was widely discussed itt) a couple months ago


Anyone on here currently on here playing for a living on bovada/ignition? I made a post like a month ago about how I got banned after being active with the network for a decade. I saw a few really horrible responses kinda just accusing me of lying and what not so I didn't bother looking at this forum for a while because I was just so angry. But I have a further update on this and it's very clear to me at this point that they are willing to disable accounts of players they know are winning.

I also saw on reddit someone months ago claimed bovada/igntion might go under. He went on to say they've been disabling random accounts. I'm not sure about the going under part, but the disabling accounts thing obviously happened to me. I was on there for the longest time, and never had anything happen till recently after the software update a few months ago - AND after they changed the blind structures that increased the variance.

Anyone with some inside info on what might actually be happening with the network let me know. I'll make another post on what happened with me. It's honestly disgusting. I do get the feeling that something will happen in the not too far distant future like they just stop offering poker on bovada altogether or something like that.


by $$$monayyy m

Anyone on here currently on here playing for a living on bovada/ignition? I made a post like a month ago about how I got banned after being active with the network for a decade. I saw a few really horrible responses kinda just accusing me of lying and what not so I didn't bother looking at this forum for a while because I was just so angry. But I have a further update on thi

Firstly, you adding in this post that someone on Reddit claimed that Bovada and Ignition might go under makes you look like a gullible moron.

Lastly, people ****ing hate it when someone says they will post more stuff later. Post everything at once or STFU.

Middlely, the time has come for everyone stop grouping Bovada and Ignition together as Bovada/Ignition or Bonition. Look at the serious cheese Ignition just gave out while Bovada did nothing as far as I can tell. And same goes for the rewards stores, there is no comparison between the two. So tell your story strictly as Bovada (if I am reading your jumbled mess correctly).

I'll tell you my Bovada story. My bankroll is on Ignition but one Sunday I was havign trouble getting into Ignition on either the downloadable client or the browser. I wanted to play a bigger Sunday tournament. I tried to see if I could get into my bovada account that had no money in it. I was able to log into Bovada. But like I said I had no money on Bovada so I made just enough of a deposit to cover the cost of the tournament. I'm playing the tournament and there is nothing else in my account money wise. But Bovada gave me bonus points or whatever and I converted it to the cash with a rollover. I' playing in a big ass Sunday tournament on half my screen and I loaded up a slot machine in the casino to burn off the bonus cash that had a rollover requirement. I set the slot for the minimum amount per spin and I set the number of spins at infinity to just keep playing on it's own while i play my poker tournament where I had to d nothing on the slow machine because it was auto playing until I ran out of bonus money or I played a hell of a lot of spins on the slot machine to clear the bonus money. The slot machine was auto playing for hundreds of hands. The next day I got a warning from Bovada that I was breaking the Terms Of Service for using my money on poker and the bonuses money on the slot machine instead of my money on the slot machine. And that they would ban me if i did it again. I deposited just enough to play the damn poker tournament. That was last time I did anything with my account on Bovada. Those crap heads are not going to mess up my playground. Now I only play on Ignition.


When was this? I'm not "gullible" btw. I referenced a reddit post because it sounded like it could possibly have something to it - but more importantly the guy referenced people having their accounts disabled. I rarely heard about people getting banned 10 years ago.

I put in over a million into bovada in 10 years, between rake in poker and sports betting. I'm not trying to brag. I'm letting you know why I'm angry. Imagine pouring that much money in and getting banned for a made up BS reason. No appreciation. I mentioned I'll give more details later just because it's such a lengthy post. But the reality is I'm fairly confident that because they're bleeding far more action than they used to that their new strategy is to essentially eliminate every reg/player who looks like he wins consistently. I have pretty sufficient evidence to believe this based on the timeline of what happened with my accts at bovada and ignition.

Bovada/ignition are the same poker network. I don't think it's any coincidence that you get such vague responses to inquiries. You have a few people in upper management who determine you're winning and then you're just gone. You can't reason with them. You won't even have the chance. Back in 2017 or 2019 for example, the player pool was so large that they were fine with winning players. I think now they've been instructed to hunt anyone who wins because there aren't enough players to make up for when a casual loses a lot right away. I did nothing differently this year than any of the previous 10, yet I got banned. I'll get into tomorrow, and I think if people actually read through it they'll know something is seriously wrong right now.

Please refrain from hating. I'm trying to actually be constructive here. I have a very long history with the network. I was grinding out a living on here a long time.

Again, anyone who consistently makes a living on here let me know what your thoughts are. Do you get the feeling they are now targeting all winning regs left? I think if you win a certain amount over an extended period they flag you and that's it - and that they literally just made that adjustment a few months ago (which is consistent with altering the blind structure to increase variance)


by $$$monayyy m

Please refrain from hating. I'm trying to actually be constructive here.

This is adult swim, not the kiddie pool. I'm the one that was constructive. You are writing sentence diarrhea. Pare down your story or get crickets as a response like last time you went off the deep end of the real pool in your kiddie pants.


by $$$monayyy m

When was this? I'm not "gullible" btw. I referenced a reddit post because it sounded like it could possibly have something to it - but more importantly the guy referenced people having their accounts disabled. I rarely heard about people getting banned 10 years ago.I put in over a million into bovada in 10 years, between rake in poker and sports betting. I'm not trying to

No need to keep dragging it on, get on with your story


I'll give you the timeline of what happened, and after reading about the Peter Falconer ignition story (google that if you get the chance) I'm even more convinced they're actively removing winning poker players at this point. I never came close to breaking any rules, or I wouldn't waste your time. It's lengthy, but worth a read particularly if you want to make an income at poker here because I think it's just about over on this platform

2015(ish) - 2025: I was a hu sng regular specialist on bovada. $50-$200 per stake. I'd say I won in the low 100ks per year, but lost much of it betting sports by overestimating myself in that area. The total revenue I generated in that time period was probably close to 1 mill for bovada. This is combining all the sports losses with all the yearly rake from sngs. Covid alone was probably 200k in rake in poker in 1 year, plus 100k loss at sports when the leagues reopened. So in many ways, I was the ideal customer, creating action in poker and losing much of it back at sports.

Late July 2025: Got banned from bovada. They told me I violated TOS. Specifically listed 6.2, 6.7, 6.8. So I was accused of betting syndicates, abusing bonuses, and fraudulent activity. Obviously, losing hundreds of thousands I never did any of this and I never used bonuses. Came out of nowhere. They didn't respond to my email. The live chat said the investigation team "didn't make this decision lightly" lol - the exact same thing Peter Falconer got on ignition. They did allow me to withdraw, and I'm assuming it's because they know I did nothing wrong and confiscating funds would be over the top.

August - early November: Played on ignition as it's the same network and needed money. You're allowed an acct on both bovada and ignition even though the player pool is shared. Played nothing, but hu sngs. Made around 20k prob. I was basically the only hu reg left after the blind structure change early Oct other than 1 other player I noticed who plays very late for a few hours. Early October I got a message saying they observed a "chip transfer" claiming I broke 6.5 and 6.6 (collusion and interplayer transfer) and further violation would regard in action to my acct. Didn't see the email at the time. A month later I got another message saying they observed a "chip transfer" again and they banned me from poker, but not the casino. I emailed them for details on what specifically I did and never got a response. Was able to withdraw. I played nothing but hu sngs so colluding isn't even possible, and chip dumping would make no sense for anyone to try because you are getting juiced and can just use the player to player transfer option.

Mid November till now: I had a friend make another ignition account for me. Up a little over 8k in just under a month. Again, just hu sngs. I'm trying to pay some bills here. I got the "We observed a chip transfer" bs again, this time citing prohibited play. Went to live chat. Asked for a specific hand, date, etc. to see what I did they had an issue with. They basically told me the resolution is not chip transfer. In other words, I broke the rules and the resolution is to not break the rules. I pressed where I broke the rules to prevent anything happening to my account and they closed to chat citing security reasons. Needless to say, sometime in the next month I'll get another message disabling poker from my account.

Obvious things to look at here:

1. 10 years on bovada, all hu sngs, no problems with my account till a few months ago after they changed the blind structures to increase variance and wiped out a lot of the bots they had complaints with
2. Again, not even possible to collude at hu sngs. It's 2 people. You're both getting juiced
3. Asked for details or hand numbers where I violated, they tell you nothing. No response to the email. The live chat discussion I had they won't even tell you how you illegally transferred or anything, most likely because it's just bs
4. Bovada and ignition listed diff bans. Bovada never even cited poker. Because they didn't have to it's a betting platform so they just claimed I broke the betting TOS. If I was doing something illegal in poker, bovada would have listed it too
5. The ignition warning the first go around came in right before the blind structure change, and ban one 1 month after. The warning with the friend's account came 1 month after I played and had a good month. Looks a lot like you got a temporary grace period of about 1 month where they evaluate if you're winning, and then a week or 2 till 1 month after where they disable you if you continue winning
6. They disable you from poker on ignition, not the casino. This is somewhat debatable, but if you're doing something really bad they likely get rid of you altogether. It's an obv lure to the casino where you can't win

Let me know your thoughts on what's happening. I believe they are just cleaning house on any winning poker players at this point because they're having traffic/money issues, especially with Ignition where they don't have the sports platform. I'm guessing bovada is doing the same even though they gave me bs sports related TOS because if I just did sports and lost at bovada without the poker I doubt I get banned.

If it's the case they aren't allowing wining poker players anymore, and it sure looks it, that needs to be the end of the platform. There's just no point. Not sure any regs are on this thread to comment their thoughts. This would never have happened in the 2010s. They're getting squeezed tight and I think the new business model is ZERO regs or long term winning poker players. I can't think of any other well known poker site that would do this. I really think poker won't even be there at ignition/bovada 2 years from now because you don't just try to ban winning players if you're doing well. And btw, without any regs hu sngs will barely run at $50 and $100 because casuals rarely sit first. I'm not sure they're even smart enough to realize that


not specific to bovada/ignition. HU is always the prime target of sites over the years to either be removed or players to get banned as its the most exploitative format. seems pretty obvious after the first accounts banned they just didnt want you anymore. after that multiaccounting from your friends account was always going to be short lived

by $$$monayyy m

I'll give you the timeline of what happened, and after reading about the Peter Falconer ignition story (google that if you get the chance) I'm even more convinced they're actively removing winning poker players at this point. I never came close to breaking any rules, or I wouldn't waste your time. It's lengthy, but worth a read particularly if you want to make an income at po


by $$$monayyy m

I had a friend make another ignition account for me.

Love how you neatly tucked this into the middle of giant bricks of psychobabble about perceiving yourself to be a victim.


I have dabbled in a handful of the $16.50 events over the past couple of months and have not suffered a single disconnection. Also, the stalling problem at the end of late reg has been cleaned up nicely. It's not perfect, but it's 100 percent playable when prior to the changes the site was simply unplayable.


Traffic is (once again) down on cash game NLHE tables. This is so odd, as it seems to fluctuate now, monthly. The only explanation that I can think of, is bots. Any other cash game players here that can vouch towards traffic?


by SweetFaceMaskIke m

Love how you neatly tucked this into the middle of giant bricks of psychobabble about perceiving yourself to be a victim.

I don't want to piss against the wind and be a victim of some nefarious plot by a poker site to confiscate my bankroll in the future, but imo these guys posting in the forums about how they were banned from X or Y site 'for absolutely no reason' is 99% of the time for some reason they don't share when telling the story in here


I was perma'd from ignition in 2024. I'm a farm town kid who lives in central illinois. I made about 15-20k a year playing micro mid stakes tourneys and cash games. I lost a bit on slots. I had the crypto exclusive deal and deposited every week to make sure I got the money.

They banned me because they said I was someone else basically.

I sent them electric bills with my address and name. I sent them my passport and me holding it. I sent them a letter from my bank in central illinois that i'm an upstanding member of the bank and live at the correct address.

They are just banning people dude.

At least one guy on this earth got anal ****ed by ignition for thousands a year that he used to feed his family.


by cutetomservo m

I was perma'd banned from ignition in 2024...
I made about 15-20k a year playing micro mid stakes tourneys and cash games...
I deposited every week to make sure I got the money.

They banned me because they said I was someone else basically.

If you are a winning player, then depositing for bonuses on top of a winning bankroll is a bad idea in my opinion. There are plenty of winning players on any poker site, but many at some point say to heck with chasing deposit bonuses when they already have a bankroll incase it somehow runs foul of the terms of service. My guess and it is only a guess is that you bent the rules on using that weekly deposit bonus. And the poker site just came up with a phantom reason to ban you, but you annoyed them as a winning player who was still depositing. Bovada was on me like white on rice for making a deposit and doing the rollover requirement while simultaneously playing my regular game.

EDIT:

And before you type to me that you cashed out your entire bankroll winnings each week and therefore never had an exisisting bankroll, let me tell you that withdrawaling just to deposit for a bonus is against the terms of service.

You wrote stuff thinking you were right, but somehow, someway you were probably wrong and got busted for it.


i was banned for not being who i am not for bonus exploitation, so cool story

they claimed i needed to verify my identity and i sent enough to verify it to god himself


Bubba Gump, your story is the cool story. I took the time to show you that you broke TOS 6.4. If they kick your ass to the curb for multiple reasons, then that just compounds your stupidity. Your, "the sky is falling and they ban anyone" crap is too funny.

This is why it isn't even worth educating fools.


by September.28 m

If you are a winning player, then depositing for bonuses on top of a winning bankroll is a bad idea in my opinion. There are plenty of winning players on any poker site, but many at some point say to heck with chasing deposit bonuses when they already have a bankroll incase it somehow runs foul of the terms of service. My guess and it is only a guess is that you bent the rule

This right here. If you were consistently winning from the site vs players is one thing. But to actually keep using/ abusing a bonus feature to just add a couple bucks to your account a month is totally not worth it. At the end of the day that's their money they are giving to you which is not the same as money your taking off another player. You automatically put yourself high on the list of undesirables


by cutetomservo m

i was banned for not being who i am not for bonus exploitation, so cool story

they claimed i needed to verify my identity and i sent enough to verify it to god himself

Have you ever considered that maybe they weren't trying to verify your identity to let you back on the site, but rather made the decision to ban you and were trying to get as much info on you as possible to prevent you from opening up new accounts in the future?


lol ignore list, who ****ing cares ****** holy moly


by Rolled High, Bro m

Have you ever considered that maybe they weren't trying to verify your identity to let you back on the site, but rather made the decision to ban you and were trying to get as much info on you as possible to prevent you from opening up new accounts in the future?

I was sent a warning a week before I was banned to verify my identity. I did. I donked off thousands a year in slots. I generate tens of thousands a year in rake.

The idea I was perma banned from a site for depositing for a bonus THEY OFFERED ME.

**** all of this anti consumer bullshit. They wanted me to only use crypto so they could use my ****ing crypto, because they are scammers just like everyone else in the economy.

Infinite bot farms. Less and less rewards, but hey there cutetomservo how dare you get LITERALLY 20 BUCKS FREE. You make a few bucks occasionally, nothing more than we take from you in rake, but how dare you make anything in 2025. Die slave. 5 dollars in points and a ten dollar ticket????? OMG BAN THIS ****ING MONSTER

How about no. How about you go **** yourself just like every other slave posting on behalf of an uregulated crypto casino.

holy ****

I just want to play some ****ing poker in 2025 and this is the reality. Crypto scam bot farm sites and slaves posting for free on their behalf, pathetic. The amount i took from the bonus doesn't even cover 1% I've lost from bots and late reg rings in tourneys. That's my money they stole from me. So **** anyone who wants to defend ignition.


If there is no eternal afterlife, it bothers me that I spent one minute and twenty seconds of my precious time on this earth reading that pathetic rant.


by cutetomservo m

I was sent a warning a week before I was banned to verify my identity. I did. I donked off thousands a year in slots. I generate tens of thousands a year in rake. The idea I was perma banned from a site for depositing for a bonus THEY OFFERED ME. **** all of this anti consumer bullshit. They wanted me to only use crypto so they could use my ****ing crypto, because they are scam

its extremely standard. i never touch bonus's myself outside of the initial deposit bonus. after the first 100 stories about people getting banned across the various sites and networks due to bonus issues, the amount you can get from them vs the lost opportunity cost of losing access to your fishing ponds is not worth it at all. if you didnt learn before now.... welcome to the world of shady offshore gambling

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