Facing Squeeze
£1/£1/£2
Hero opens UTG 1010 (£180)
HJ calls
CO £50 (£200)
Hero ??
CO I have played with for a while now. He does 3B more than the average low stakes player but I wouldn't say a ridiculous amount. I dont think we can call here so options are to shove of fold I think?
What would our shoving range look like here?
do we have any calls?
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This is very player dependent. In general, we want to jam with hands that are at least one step higher than the bottom of his range. So would V squeeze with 99 in this setup? If the answer is "probably not" we should fold. If "probably", then we should consider a jam and if he would definitely squeeze with hands as weak as 77-88 we should be eager to gii.
I don't think there's a lot of virtue in calling this shallow, mid pps don't have much playability post-flop.
This is very player dependent. In general, we want to jam with hands that are at least one step higher than the bottom of his range. So would V squeeze with 99 in this setup If the answer is "probably not" we should fold. If "probably", then we should consider a jam and if he would definitely squeeze with hands as weak as 77-88 we should be eager to gii. I don't think there's a
Yeah I think calling is the worse option. I’m not sure how wide he would squeeze but good point to take note of
Standard fold i think
£1/£1/£2
Hero opens UTG 1010 (£180)
HJ calls
CO £50 (£200)
Hero ??
CO I have played with for a while now. He does 3B more than the average low stakes player but I wouldn't say a ridiculous amount. I dont think we can call here so options are to shove of fold I think?
What would our shoving range look like here?
do we have any calls?
It's not clear to me how much our open was for. But assuming it was for something like 10, the 3B to 50 would make me think he's not folding if we jam for another 130.
I'm not sure if we should or shouldn't jam, but if he's 3B'ing more often, perhaps too often, then it could be a profitable jam. Alternatively, if we think he'll be over c-betting most flops, we might just call, and look to check-jam any flop that doesn't have over-cards to our T's.
As for our shoving range - it somewhat depends on what we think his 3B'ing range looks like, and if he has any 3B-folds for this size when we're only starting 180 deep, and how often we think he'll c-bet the flop, regardless of texture.
Like, if his 3B'ing range here is just TT+, it's a clear fold. If he has 88+/AK/AQ/AJ, and he c-bets flops close to 100%, it's a closer decision, between jamming and calling.
Monitoring people’s 3bet tendencies is important when not in a hand. I want to know if villain will do this with suited aces and/or connectors in position. How weak will he go?
At low stakes, most good players are 3betting pretty linear, because they are so likely to get called. So, how good of a player are we dealing with here?
I agree it’s raise or fold, but I can’t see what’s going on by what you’re telling me. The safe play is to fold, but if I had played with this guy for awhile, I might rip it. I’m not a tanker, but I might sit for awhile with this decision looking for tells. Play with the chips as if getting ready to shove and see if I get a reaction.
Bottom line is I might fold, but I’m not folding quickly, as this is kind of what you want with a short stack, a strong made hand. People 3bet AK, maybe AQ giving you a flip, even if he calls. But only a pure bluff or a bad player will fold to a shove, so there’s likely no fold equity. I don’t think he’s got 99 or worse, but paint is very possible.
This is so player dependent, and then you’ll still be wrong often. This situation would be harder in a tournament where the penalty for being wrong is more severe.
It's not clear to me how much our open was for. But assuming it was for something like 10, the 3B to 50 would make me think he's not folding if we jam for another 130.I'm not sure if we should or shouldn't jam, but if he's 3B'ing more often, perhaps too often, then it could be a profitable jam. Alternatively, if we think he'll be over c-betting most flops, we might just call, a
Sorry I missed of a 10. we opened to £10 with 1010
I personally thought call would be the worst of the two options here as our stack are not that deep and its going to be hard to get a flop were happy with
Yeah I'll be trying to get more information on this guy. he turned up with AK in this hand
I mean if he's only 3betting AK and JJ+ here your fold is good.
Was looking over my notes from ‘Let There Be Range’ and it brings Hero’s image into play for this situation. When you have a nit image, you can semi-bluff more, but when facing aggression, you should fold 99 or TT more often. When everyone knows you’re a nit, they are not coming after you without a big hand.
