The "LOLCANADA" thread...again
So what's new?
I've noticed the Liberals are now ahead in all major polls and Trudeau hasn't even started to campaign yet
The immigration issue still exists. We had a Dominoes open here and they offered a assistant manager's position at a really great salary. The comments were quick do not bother they do this and than say they could not find any reasonable applicants and go the immigration route
Lets be clear foreign students are a great thing if they actually are in school . The problem is many register and than never show up and are lost.
On a side note wasn't it Carney that told us he would solve the tariff issue in 90 days? How is that going . It looks like his strategy is get to CUSMA and than deal with it. My guess is Trump[ pulls out and than were screwed
The immigration issue still exists. We had a Dominoes open here and they offered a assistant manager's position at a really great salary. The comments were quick do not bother they do this and than say they could not find any reasonable applicants and go the immigration routeLets be clear foreign students are a great thing if they actually are in school . The problem is many re
And it will continue to exist. 450k new PRs in 2025 when there's 0 need for them and even worse, 0 room for them.
Lets be clear foreign students are a great thing if they actually are in school . The problem is many register and than never show up and are lost.
Are they? Is there a need for foreigners to come here and study hospitality for 2 years and end up with some bs diploma and a pathway to PR?
Is there really a need for international students to graduate from any degree(but doctors and even that is debatable) and then work here and be given a pathway to PR?
Greatest lie ever told to Canadians is that we can't grow these in house.
And it will continue to exist. 450k new PRs in 2025 when there's 0 need for them and even worse, 0 room for them. Are they? Is there a need for foreigners to come here and study hospitality for 2 years and end up with some bs diploma and a pathway to PR? Is there really a need for international students to graduate from any degree(but doctors and even that is debatable) and the
Universities make a pile of money off foreign students but once they graduate keep the doctors and nurses and specialized areas that we need . The likes of hospitality and those degrees get them go back
I see Ford axed the F150 Lightning . Cost them 18.5 billion
What scares me is these investments in battery plants .
Universities make a pile of money off foreign students but once they graduate keep the doctors and nurses and specialized areas that we need . The likes of hospitality and those degrees get them go back
Ooh don't get me wrong, I agree we should keep them, unfortunately we're also keeping the ones who graduate from bs degrees like hospitality.
I'm all for immigration that benefits Canada as a whole, hell to some extent we're all immigrants. What I am not for is Tim Hortons having LMIA applications approved when we have 20%+ youth unemployment.
Lmao. I knew you are hopping mad about this issue, but I didn't realize you were this terrible at actually articulating an argument. You said there was unfettered immigration where they loosened all restrictions. That is false. Stupidly, obvious false. I provided a whole list of restrictions. You have yet to engage with a single one of them and just repeat that it is nevertheless exactly still unfettered immigration.
While you seem utterly uninterested in discussing the actual facts, you DO want to get outraged at evidence-less complaints about people apparently calling you xenophobic and racist. Lol.
Universities make a pile of money off foreign students but once they graduate keep the doctors and nurses and specialized areas that we need . The likes of hospitality and those degrees get them go back
It's always seemed to me that foreign students is one of the silliest places to cut. Education is an export. Canada makes money - tonnes of money - off of immigrants coming in and dumping all their sky high tuition dollars. It lowers costs for domestic students. I'll be the first to point out problems with some of the more diploma mill type places like conestoga college etc. But I teach at a research institution, and we are definitely worse off with the cooling international student pool.
It's always seemed to me that foreign students is one of the silliest places to cut. Education is an export. Canada makes money - tonnes of money - off of immigrants coming in and dumping all their sky high tuition dollars. It lowers costs for domestic students. I'll be the first to point out problems with some of the more diploma mill type places like conestoga college etc. Bu
There we go agreeing again
Lmao. I knew you are hopping mad about this issue, but I didn't realize you were this terrible at actually articulating an argument. You said there was unfettered immigration where they loosened all restrictions.
I ignore most of your points on purpose. You're usually arguing in bad faith and I've also realized you either don't live in reality or are not Canadian. One of those is 100% true.
It's always seemed to me that foreign students is one of the silliest places to cut. Education is an export. Canada makes money - tonnes of money - off of immigrants coming in and dumping all their sky high tuition dollars. It lowers costs for domestic students. But I teach at a research institution, and we are definitely worse off with the cooling international student pool.
It does? You mean the tuition that has gradually been increasing for Canadians over the last 10 years in the same period we've been allowing record numbers of international students?
I'll be the first to point out problems with some of the more diploma mill type places like conestoga college etc.
You're the last to point it out because you can no longer deny it.
But I teach at a research institution, and we are definitely worse off with the cooling international student pool.
Sounds like your school is doing something wrong.
I ignore most of your points on purpose. You're usually arguing in bad faith and I've also realized you either don't live in reality or are not Canadian. One of those is 100% true.
Lol at the projection - like here you are actively arguing in bad faith ignoring people's points and going for for baseless insults. And you have the gall to pretend *I* am the one doing bad faith arguing? Lol.
There are reasonable version of your arguments. Here, I'll type it out for you: "yes uke, you are 100% there are a lot of restrictions. Less than 10% of any business workforce, only in areas with <6%, unemployment, with shortened reporting periods and durations, etc so I was totally wrong to say unfettered immigration. However, I feel the restrictions should be even higher". THat would be reasonable. And yet....
It does? You mean the tuition that has gradually been increasing for Canadians over the last 10 years in the same period we've been allowing record numbers of international students?
Correct. Government funding of academia has been declining. So one thing has gone up, the other goes down. In an ideal world, we would have substantial government funding of research and teaching in higher education AND a robust international student population that provides resources and opportunities that are net benefits to Canada both economically as an export and for many other reasons.
Correct. Government funding of academia has been declining. So one thing has gone up, the other goes down. In an ideal world, we would have substantial government funding of research and teaching in higher education AND a robust international student population that provides resources and opportunities that are net benefits to Canada both economically as an export and for many other reasons.
Right, so when you said ''It lowers costs for domestic students'' did you mean that cost for domestic students has been going up the last 10 years even though in the same period we've allowed record numbers of international students?
Like I said, I'm all for temporary immigrants who don't take jobs of Canadians other than jobs we don't want to do or we actively need(not burger king employees) and then go back home. At least I don't pretend we need them to benefit Canadian students.... They get shafted by high tuition costs for a degree that is decreasing in value year over year.
Right, so when you said ''It lowers costs for domestic students'' did you mean that cost for domestic students has been going up the last 10 years even though in the same period we've allowed record numbers of international students?
Ah, I see your confusion. There is a distinction between relative and absolute differences. International student tuition is typically 4-5x the price of domestic students, it is a massive boost to university budgets helping domestic students. That's relative. However, international students isn't the only thing happening, we have also seen a reduction in per capita funding from governments. So both are true: tuition for domestic students has risen and were it not for international students it would have risen far more.
Conversely after Trudeau clamped down on international student tuition, this is decimating the budgets of a lot of big universities that are resulting in cuts to programs that help domestic students.
Like I said, I'm all for temporary immigrants who don't take jobs of Canadians other than jobs we don't want to do or we actively need(not burger king employees) and then go back home.
Right, so that is the overwhelming majority of the TFW program. Most of that program goes to jobs you probably wouldn't ever dream of being willing to do. And after a year they leave and go home. I'm not sure I really understand why you are very angry that low wage fast food restaurant work has about 4% nationwide being TFW (they have a cap of 10% in any company that only applies in low unemployment <6% jursidictions).
Again, a lot of anger but not a lot of understanding of any policy.
Ah, I see your confusion. There is a distinction between relative and absolute differences. International student tuition is typically 4-5x the price of domestic students, it is a massive boost to university budgets helping domestic students. That's relative. However, international students isn't the only thing happening, we have also seen a reduction in per capita funding fr
Spoken like a true politician. Make a claim he can't back up then pretend the room is confused and we didn't understand the nuance.
You are genuinely terrible at having a conversation about politics. Absolutely zero substance or nuance of detail so far from you in this entire “conversation”.
You get what you deserve. Bad faith fantasy-land arguments get nothing of substance or nuance in return.
"I'm proudly acting in bad faith because I've imagined you're acting in bad faith" is quite the take.
All I can hope is that after listing the MANY restrictions on TFW you won't go around acting like it is unfettered immigration where they have loosened all restrictions. Probably you still will. But maybe just maybe the facts will slow you down in the future.
You are genuinely terrible at having a conversation about politics. Absolutely zero substance or nuance of detail so far from you in this entire “conversation”.
You get what you deserve. Bad faith fantasy-land arguments get nothing of substance or nuance in return.
"I'm proudly acting in bad faith because I've imagined you're acting in bad faith" is quite the take.
All I can hope is that after listing the MANY restrictions on TFW you won't go around acting like it is unfettered immigration where they have loosened all restrictions. Probably you still will. But maybe just maybe the facts will slow you down in the future.
I am not sure how you can say he is terrible at having a political conversation? He is willing to admit Pierre is not the man for the job and that Carney is doing OK while you try and give credit to Trudeau for attempting to fix a immigration problem which you will not admit was entirely caused by Trudeau .
You are so much like a MAGA that is loyal to Trump no matter what but your the same with Trudeau.
You tell us to forget Trudeau and move on not realizing so many of his mistakes have an impact for generations
Pabilto is clearly VERY animated about immigration, goes on and on about treason and people should be executed and so forth. So I was curious was he capable of having an actual back and forth that look at what the policies actually are. Sadly, that didn't seem possible. If I raised a series of restrictions to counter his claim of loosening all restrictions, he would proudly and deliberately ignore the point (and then ironically accuse others of being in bad faith). That's great that he thinks Poilievre is **** too, but that doesn't mean he is capable of a nuanced conversation.
Maybe in the future, but I'm not holding my breath.
I am not sure how you can say he is terrible at having a political conversation? He is willing to admit Pierre is not the man for the job and that Carney is doing OK while you try and give credit to Trudeau for attempting to fix a immigration problem which you will not admit was entirely caused by Trudeau .You are so much like a MAGA that is loyal to Trump no matter what but yo
Also lol at dropping Trudeau in 4 times 4 sentences. My dude's obsessed.
So explain this to me Trump says Supply Management must be in the table for Tariff talks. Carney says not a chance
The skeptics say why is Trump bring it up when the USA has never even come close to the quotas allowed. Well if that is the case why not put it on the table. I know ill never but USA milk or dairy
You want Carney to pre-capitulate on all of Trump's demands six months prior to a negotiation even starting?
I think you should read the Art of the Deal.
You want Carney to pre-capitulate on all of Trump's demands six months prior to a negotiation even starting?
I think you should read the Art of the Deal.
Read the Fxxking question . If the USA is allowed to export 10 million $ of dairy max per year and they only export a million $ Why make it an issue if he wants it gone ?
I didn't say he needs to pre-capitulate . I was just asking a question why this is a hill they will not die on
Lets not forget Carney promised to have this free trade thing done in 90 days kind of like Trump ending the Ukraine war in 24 hours
When companies know there is a quota limit so a fixed profit ceiling, AND they have to jump through all of the canadian hoops set up a whole distribution, deal with product mismatches etc, it isn't surprising you aren't going to bump up exactly to the quota ceiling. If US companies had absolutely unfettered access to Canadian markets presumably they would be quite successful at taking over with mega factory farm style dairy, but they aren't going to meaningfully try while there is a quota.
So explain this to me Trump says Supply Management must be in the table for Tariff talks. Carney says not a chance
The skeptics say why is Trump bring it up when the USA has never even come close to the quotas allowed. Well if that is the case why not put it on the table. I know ill never but USA milk or dairy
Losing supply management is not something we can easily reverse and like it or not the USA is a rogue state right now.
The real question Canadians should ask is “why negotiate at all?”.
The dairy quotas were negotiated and agreed upon by Trump himself and now he’s calling the quota unfair even though it has never been reached AND we are still one of the top importers of US dairy? Why entertain this moron?
They want American liquor back on Canadian shelves. How about you apologize first for threatening our sovereignty?
Sorry man. While it seems easy to “just give in” that strat does not work vs bullies.
Read the Fxxking question . If the USA is allowed to export 10 million $ of dairy max per year and they only export a million $ Why make it an issue if he wants it gone ?I didn't say he needs to pre-capitulate . I was just asking a question why this is a hill they will not die on
It's easy to blame Carney for this but I think most of us have realized that he is facing an impossible job. Trump very clearly is willing to let millions suffer just to declare ''victory'' and his demands change monthly if not daily.
Even if Carney was to capitulate and give in to everything they'd just move the goal posts.
Sorry man I'm the first in line to **** on liberals and how they are 100% responsible for the awful state Canada is in today and yes, I would absolutely hang them all for treason but in this case Carney is winning in my eyes by simply being the adult in the room and not giving into temper tantrums.
