mtt hand review
Pacific Poker - 50/100 Ante 12 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
UTG: 100 BB
UTG+1: 87.29 BB (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
MP: 193.64 BB (VPIP: 11.76, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
Hero (MP+1): 111.29 BB
CO: 89.76 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
BTN: 128.55 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
SB: 85.33 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 2)
BB: 92.72 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
8 players post ante of 0.12 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 2.46 BB) Hero has Kh Jh
fold, UTG+1 raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 8 BB, UTG+1 calls 6 BB
Flop : (28.46 BB, 3 players) 9h 3s Ks
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets 9.39 BB, BB calls 9.39 BB, fold
Turn : (47.24 BB, 2 players) 7s
BB checks, Hero checks
River : (47.24 BB, 2 players) Qc
BB bets 31.65 BB, Hero calls 31.65 BB
BB shows Ad As (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 82%, Flop 77%, Turn 91%)
Hero mucks Kh Jh (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 18%, Flop 23%, Turn 9%)
BB wins 110.54 BB
i think i played this hand okay until the river i understand that KJs only mixes 3bets preflop in this spot but dont know if calling the river was correct as im unsure if im ahead of anything hes jamming for value and where is bluffs would come from
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Small sample (18 hands) but BB looks like a tight reg so cold calling range is probably going to be linear and reasonable, something like 88-JJ, suited broadways like AQ, KQ, AJ, JT, maybe AQo. The bluffs on the river come from the medium pocket pairs with a spade that call flop and are downgraded to 3rd pair by the river, trying to get you to fold a Qx hand. For value, he has all the Ax spades, Qx spades, Jx spades combos, KQs, 99. For that price, you need to be good about 30% on the river. I think it's close but the pre flop stats lead me to believe this isn't a guy who's bluffing all the 88-JJ with a spade and I would probably make a tight fold here
Small sample (18 hands) but BB looks like a tight reg so cold calling range is probably going to be linear and reasonable, something like 88-JJ, suited broadways like AQ, KQ, AJ, JT, maybe AQo. The bluffs on the river come from the medium pocket pairs with a spade that call flop and are downgraded to 3rd pair by the river, trying to get you to fold a Qx hand. For value, he has
He cold-called a 3-bet so his range might be even tighter than that.
Anyway, that cold call is the first alarm bell. You can probably bet smaller on the flop, but especially once you bet this size and the cold caller continues while not closing the action, I'm probably just hoping to improve or get to showdown. I think you can just fold river since the bet is so large and there really isn't anything that continues in this fashion that you beat once the flush comes in.
(In the future, don't include results in your post so people can offer their analysis without that information creating bias.)
Agree with above posters regarding river, but I don't get here this way.
I probably just flat pre here (don't even hate folding), the VPIP stats are meaningless and it's a mix GTO wise but the 3 bet is easier to play against a weaker range (vs HJ/CO/BU open).
Betting flop is tempting to get value from TT-QQ, but MW I prefer a check. I would bet our draws as bluffs and 2p+ for value but even with the sizing (which I like) it just feels so thin and we open ourselves up to a difficult situation in the event of a raise.
Prefer calling here although I don't think 3betting is far behind calling. When we get to the river you really don't beat anything - the flush got there, even a dumb hand like JT got there - you would need him getting way out of a line with A9 or something. Furthermore you 3b pre - he checked the turn - all signs of a line that has no bluffs.
Agree with above posters regarding river, but I don't get here this way.
I probably just flat pre here (don't even hate folding), the VPIP stats are meaningless and it's a mix GTO wise but the 3 bet is easier to play against a weaker range (vs HJ/CO/BU open).
Assuming from the stack depths that it's pretty early on and we're playing chip EV, folding is way too weak. It's a mix hand that calls more than 3-bets (whereas we start 3-betting more with slightly weaker hands), but it can flop very strong and it's such a small investment of our stack.
Betting flop is tempting to get value from TT-QQ, but MW I prefer a check. I would bet our draws as bluffs and 2p+ for value but even with the sizing (which I like) it just feels so thin and we open ourselves up to a difficult situation in the event of a raise.
I think betting flop especially with a backdoor flush draw is OK, but I'd probably bet smaller than this, 20-25%, and after BB's preflop cold call and flop call, I'd be very careful, as I mentioned already.
