Should We Bluff-Catch vs a River Raise All-In on ClubWPT? (Top Two on Paired Board)
Stakes: $0.50 / $1 / $2
Format: 8-handed, $0.50 ante per player, UTG straddle $2
Effective stacks: ~$300
Villain: UTG1, 38/21 over ~9k hands. No other reads.
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Preflop (Pot: $37.50)
Antes: $4.00
Blinds: $1.50
UTG straddle: $2.00
Pot = $7.50
V (UTG1) opens to $8
BTN calls $8
Hero (SB) calls $8 with K♣ Q♣
UTG straddler calls $8
Pot = $37.50
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Flop: J♣ 7♣ 7x (Pot: $37.50)
Hero checks
UTG straddler checks
V bets $17
BTN folds
Hero calls $17
UTG straddler folds
Pot = $71.50
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Turn: Kx (Pot: $71.50)
Hero checks
V checks
Pot = $71.50
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River: Qx (Pot: $71.50)
Hero bets $70
V tanks ~8 seconds, then jams to $290 effective
Hero facing $220 to call
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River questions (what I’m looking for feedback on)
1. Is $70 a good value size here with KQ on J77KQ (clubs miss), or should we be sizing smaller/larger / checking?
2. Versus this profile (38/21) is this a mandatory bet/call, or is the bet→jam line underbluffed on ClubWPT in general?
(Results later.)
7 Replies
1) I think if you lead pot is fine size. Your range after the flop is mostly Jx, 88-TT, 7x, and club draws. I don't think the Jx or 88-TT are worth blocking, so probably playing one big size with KJ+ is reasonable. I would lean towards check though because you're going to have lots of Jx that V can try to bluff you off when the second overcard comes on river
2) Once you get jammed on, I would fold. V cbet flop into 3 people, and usually is going to barrel the K on the turn with bluffs. Bet-check-bet is under bluffed in general, and V can have JJ, KK, QQ, AT, T9. The bluffs probably come from JTs and AJ but its a 2x pot jam so I think you can just defend 7x + and be okay
1) I think if you lead pot is fine size. Your range after the flop is mostly Jx, 88-TT, 7x, and club draws. I don't think the Jx or 88-TT are worth blocking, so probably playing one big size with KJ+ is reasonable. I would lean towards check though because you're going to have lots of Jx that V can try to bluff you off when the second overcard comes on river2) Once you get jamm
I feel like KQ is a much better catcher than something like 87s… 7x only blocks one value combo (quads).
I can't say for this specific game, but in classical 6-max no ante no straddle game sometimes we do not squeeze hands like KQs or TT when the opener is in early position: taking the dead money preflop (if they fold) or playing a big pot (if they call) is fine, but folding our equity (if they jam or 4bet) is not fun and those hands play OK in a multiway pot.
Bet turn, it's super healthy to balance your stabbing range OTT, after a cbet check line. Also, you block his potential slowplays/buffraises and check/calls that beat you.
As played, snap fold river 0.1 second after he jams it's a line never played as a bluff end of story.
1) I think if you lead pot is fine size. Your range after the flop is mostly Jx, 88-TT, 7x, and club draws. I don't think the Jx or 88-TT are worth blocking, so probably playing one big size with KJ+ is reasonable. I would lean towards check though because you're going to have lots of Jx that V can try to bluff you off when the second overcard comes on river2) Once you get jamm
If you're only betting top2p OTT, you realize the next hand on your list to bet is quads, bro?
I much prefer flatting suited broadways OTB pre, because 1)it balances our flatting range that doesn't flop as well, and 2)they flop hyper good and you can float/bluffraise/make value in position.
