Is The Epstein Pivot That Big A Deal
Is The Epstein Pivot That Big A Deal
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Is The Epstein Pivot That Big A Deal

How much of the original allegations are actually now denied? Is it not possible that the only thing that has changed is

09 July 2025 at 03:30 PM
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by TheBigEasy m

Let me guess…..”it doesn’t matter who is POTUS because the genocide machine runs itself…..for fun AND profit!!!”How did I do?

Very poorly lol. Not even remotely close.

by TheBigEasy m

I don’t think Clinton is a pedo. I don’t think Trump is, either. I think if both knew a girl was under 18, they’d **** a different one who was 18.

I do think that they’re both shitbags, but different kinds of shitbags. And Trump is way, way worse.

It's pretty amazing someone can still have an opinion like this after all the **** we've seen.


well, hes a guy who claims to put someone on his ignore list, brags about it, and then still responds to that person. so I dont think hes exactly capable of even the smallest amount of critical thinking. nor do I think hes the type to change his opinions about anything despite overwhelming evidence that these guys were ****ing kids.


by StoppedRainingMen m

When push comes to shove I truly refuse to believe people voted trump (or at least in large swaths) cuz something something economy

Economic anxiety is just shorthand for β€˜I can’t tell the world I like trump.’ Was in 2016, was last year.

The only reason I disagree with this is that many Trump voters now disapprove of his economic performance, indicating they actually are "economically anxious". I agree about 2016, as anyone who thought the economy was good in 2018 or 2019 should have said the same about 2016 or 2015.


by Victor m

well, hes a guy who claims to put someone on his ignore list, brags about it, and then still responds to that person. so I dont think hes exactly capable of even the smallest amount of critical thinking. nor do I think hes the type to change his opinions about anything despite overwhelming evidence that these guys were ****ing kids.

There are a lot of emotionally fragile posters who feel the need to put posters on ignore for fear of being triggered. They can't stay away though because they like to look for trouble.


by TheBigEasy m

OK. So you voted (3 times!) for a guy who you think would commit a sex crime if he knew he could get away with it? That seems about right.

I only voted for Trump once.


by biggerboat m

Like another white male racist lying conman?

Everybody is a racist. You are just not allowed to be a racist if you are white.


by Pablito m

It's pretty amazing someone can still have an opinion like this after all the **** we've seen.

If you have evidence that either Clinton or Trump ****ed a child, please provide it.

All I have seen is that they both liked to hang out with young women, and Epstein. I assume they hung out with these young women because they want to **** these young women, and maybe even did **** some of them.

I don't think Matt Gaetz is a "pedo" either. He's just a total shitbag that has zero respect for women; just like Trump and Clinton.

I believe that Trump ****ed that porn star when his mail-order-bride was pregnant, and that he paid her to stfu about it. Shitbag behavior.

I believe Clinton had an intern blow him. Shitbag behavior.

I have not seen any evidence that either Clinton or Trump (or Gaetz for that matter) wants to **** pre-pubescent girls, or that they are attracted to children. That's what "pedo" means to me. A guy who ****s a 17-year old who claims to be older and appears to be older, is not a "pedo" in my view.

No one hates Trump more than me. No one. No one wants him to burn more than me for being a child molester, so if you have the evidence please provide it.


by mongidig m

Everybody is a racist. You are just not allowed to be a racist if you are white.

This honestly explains a lot about how you view the world.


by mongidig m

I only voted for Trump once.

So, you voted for a guy that you think would commit a sex crime if you knew he could get away with it. That seems about right.


by mongidig m

Everybody is a racist. You are just not allowed to be a racist if you are white.

Trump says plenty of racist stuff. No powerful politician says "Well Charlie Kirk is your typical low intelligence white who catered to other low intelligence white rurals which explains long lasting poverty and under achievement in rural america." There's just not a market for bashing whites like there is for bashing non whites even with the obvious and impactful deficiencies of your typical white conservative.


by mongidig m

Everybody is a racist. You are just not allowed to be a racist if you are white.

Sometimes someone just needs to post once and once only to explain everything


by TheBigEasy m

I don’t think Clinton is a pedo. I don’t think Trump is, either. I think if both knew a girl was under 18, they’d **** a different one who was 18.

They quite certainly wouldn't, you know. They would take what was offered in the belief that the rules are only for little people.


by 57 On Red m

They quite certainly wouldn't, you know. They would take what was offered in the belief that the rules are only for little people.

That may very well be true. And it wouldn’t shock me. But I’ll need more evidence than I’ve currently seen to label these *******s as β€œpedos” as opposed to β€œ*******s who like to **** young women who aren’t their wives.


by Nut Nut m

What Jeffrey Epstein did in real life was basically what the character Littlefinger did in Game of Thrones.

He catered to the kinks of the powerful brutes of the world.

I'm digging this up because the NYT launched new propaganda whitewashing Epstein and his associates which overlaps a lot with the above general sense of Epstein, that he was not acting on behalf of a state or a deep state but only acting selfishly for his own interests. The NYT is saying Epstein stole billions of dollars from elites by way of his personal charm. I guess he was way more charming than Bernie Madeoff. Who knew you could steal billions of dollars from the greediest people on the planet with a little finesse and they wouldn't seek to get it back or prosecute you?

Do you think Cerci would intervene if her guard or whoever tried to prosecute little finger because little finger had kompromat on her? Of course not. When that happens it's because Littlefinger has kompromat. But powerful people did intervene for Epstein. He was slated to spend the rest of his life in prison and the U.S. state intervened to save him. To be more precise, some element of the U.S. state protected him. Some element of the U.S. state also protected Israelis who stole extremely sensitive intelligence and transferred it to Israel and other countries. Jonathan Pollard, for example. He should have been executed for treason as the secrets he sold were eventually given to Russia, an adversary. He is breathing free air in Israel this day. So there are elements which have infiltrated our government which act on behalf of a foreign power, Israel, who protect its spies who steal secrets from the U.S.. Epstein is also closely associated with Israeli intelligence, and was also given protection by elements within the state. If you or I were to either hand over signals intelligence or rape/traffic hundreds of underage girls we would never see the outside of a prison. Neither would the highest levels of government concern themselves with us or intervene on our behalf.

If you can't explain why the state would bend over backward to bailout a prolific sex offender who had acquired billions of dollars and who associates with the most powerful people in the world, then you don't have a viable explanation of Epstein. You can't call it a nothing burger when he played a get-out-of-jail-free card that no amount of money can buy. Someone had to manipulate our state at the highest levels to make that happen and there is no getting around that.


by StoppedRainingMen m

Sometimes someone just needs to post once and once only to explain everything

What did you learn from this?

There is no doubt that white people are forbidden from saying certain things but other people can get away with it. Also, I think racism is on a spectrum. Some people don't even know they are racist. Other people know it and unfortunately act on it. Where do you think you fall in this spectrum?


The irony of racism there are more racists than you would think but it's not as hateful as you think. There are only a very small sample of people in the world who are the racist people envision. there are very few who would actually cause harm to others. Most are on the spectrum and for the most part not hateful but have their preferences. MAGA are definitely racist but also very harmless for the most part. They are just dumb hicks and they were born into it. I do find that most of these people would be happy to help out any race in need.


by mongidig m

What did you learn from this?

There is no doubt that white people are forbidden from saying certain things but other people can get away with it. Also, I think racism is on a spectrum. Some people don't even know they are racist. Other people know it and unfortunately act on it. Where do you think you fall in this spectrum?

Are there non racist people? Or is everyone racist some just don’t know it?


I would say voting for trump because you're a racist has proved to be far more harmful than you portray.


by mongidig m

What did you learn from this?

There is no doubt that white people are forbidden from saying certain things but other people can get away with it. Also, I think racism is on a spectrum. Some people don't even know they are racist. Other people know it and unfortunately act on it. Where do you think you fall in this spectrum?

Between your post and your entire body of work? Confirmation that you’re human garbage


by StoppedRainingMen m

Between your post and your entire body of work? Confirmation that you’re human garbage

What makes me human garbage? I have an opinion based off of a lifetime of observation. I'm not saying anything bad about anyone. I don't understand your anger towards me.

My friend did say what is the point of me trying to argue in a liberal slanted forum? I said I'm not trying to argue anything, I'm just trying to have a conversation. I realize that these forums don't represent reality.


by mongidig m

I don't understand your anger towards me.

It almost certainly has something to do with either his father or mother (the former I'd guess) and not something that should be taken too personally.


by BobTheSlob m

lmao, this guy is so old, wrong and extremely confused, he could be the president of the US of A.

Also really cringe how he claims Maga is not a cult then continues to describe a cult....

I guess the litmus test for David is whether or not he agrees with Howard Lutnick that, "If a drug costs $100 and is lowered to $13, then the cost of the drug was cut by 700% because you'd have to raise it by 700% to bring it back to the original price... or it can be looked as being cut by 87%. It just depends on how you look at it."

The old David would throw fits just knowing that the secretary of commerce divided 100/7 and came up with 13, let alone asserting that subtracting 700% and 87% will give the same answer.


by Land O Lakes m

I guess the litmus test for David is whether or not he agrees with Howard Lutnick that, "If a drug costs $100 and is lowered to $13, then the cost of the drug was cut by 700% because you'd have to raise it by 700% to bring it back to the original price... or it can be looked as being cut by 87%. It just depends on how you look at it." The old David would throw fits just knowing

i do not care what the name of a reduction from100 to 13 should be called. I do not care if some people don't think a willingness to die for your leader is a prerequisite to be called a cult member. Knowing the definition of words is as unimportant to me as is being good at arithmetic. I don't even care if government leaders got bad scores in high school on standardized tests that sometimes required logic. As long as they could get good scores now, after some study.

But if they still couldn't get good scores, they are dangerous. Getting good answers to real world problems sometimes takes a brain that doesn't screw up those test questions,


by weeeez m

Also, if trump is like jesus, he should sacrifice himself to save the many.

I heard Trump referred to as "the God of white people". I don't know what that means but I found it pretty funny. Learning that that bullet hit his ear, basically the only place where it could show blood to the crowd but not injure him seriously, I figured he was at least deity adjacent, God-kissed at a minimum. He does seem to have some kind of supernatural constitution, to be that old and go through 2 presidential campaigns in the midst of a country where half the people hate you, dealing with all of the legal assaults and the constant waterfall of ill will. My parents are younger than Trump and I can't imagine them going through a presidential campaign for 1 week.


by mongidig m

My friend did say what is the point of me trying to argue in a liberal slanted forum?

Mong's biggest lie so far.

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