Bike 40 - 222
Good tag regular opens UTG+1 and two people coldcall. I call Q2dd in the BB.
Flop A22r, I have bdfd. I check, tag bets, others fold, I XR, tag calls.
Turn 7 putting up FD. I bet he raises. I 3bet in real time (figuring he could and would play his strong Ax this way) but I’m not sure it’s correct.
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Seems fine unless he folds to three bets in which case you can call and c/r river. You only lose to AA
If you have a loose image which I suspect you have from reading previous posts villain may raise with a big Ace or a flush draw and three betting is fine. If you’re a tight arse and villain raises calling and not three betting is probably the best option although it may be close
Just to generate some traffic, was this 8 or 9 handed? Any chance the the TAG opens 77 here?
My games are 8 handed and usually short 1 for a lobby, so I might open 77 UTG+1 7 handed. Of course that is at 4/8 or 8/16 not 40.
I would 3 bet in my games. Looks like the A of diamonds is on the board, so no AKdd for him.
Is V folding any part of his range after the flop check raise? Would he fold KJdd for example?
He could have opened AA, A2s, and 77. Hero is ahead of the rest.
I think in am aggressive higher stakes game that 3 betting is the play, at 4-8 it's probably a call. Perhaps the question is how to play it if V 4 bets the turn or raises the river.
Is V folding any part of his range after the flop check raise? Would he fold KJdd for example?
He could have opened AA, A2s, and 77. Hero is ahead of the rest.
I think in am aggressive higher stakes game that 3 betting is the play, at 4-8 it's probably a call. Perhaps the question is how to play it if V 4 bets the turn or raises the river.
Funny you mention that - villain pretty quickly 4bet turn. I ended up calling down but can I find a golf?
I would fold so fast to a four bet they wouldn’t see me take my third bet back.
Name one hand you are beating
I would fold so fast to a four bet they wouldn’t see me take my third bet back.
Name one hand you are beating
I can’t. I guess the question is whether 3bet/fold is the superior line to just calling down. Maybe this is just the sort of texture where I beat a good deal of his raising range but have 0-1 outs when he 4bets.
Would be interested in a solver looking at this.
The solver would find bluffs a human can’t.
It really depends on an opponent here.
I’ve got opponents that would raise AK here and fold to a three bet (so call and c/r river).
I’ve also got ones that would raise and call down.
I’ve also got ones that raise the turn with AK and then check back the river.
It really depends on an opponent here.
I’ve got opponents that would raise AK here and fold to a three bet (so call and c/r river).
I’ve also got ones that would raise and call down.
I’ve also got ones that raise the turn with AK and then check back the river.
I am above my pay grade here, but are they all good TAG regs?(my short term goal), I would think as a superior TAG reg you would be all these at once.
Based on your description of the hand I probably would call the river expecting to lose most of the time.
Unlikely scenarios but they happen and sometimes more than we think:
Villain temporarily went brain dead and overplayed his hand
Unlikely again but he was bluffing
Villain misread his hand. Limit players tend to be older and sometimes have problems with their vision.
Pot is big. Haven’t calculated your odds but it’s a big pot and folding a winner would be catastrophic.
Based on your description of the hand I probably would call the river expecting to lose most of the time. Unlikely scenarios but they happen and sometimes more than we think:Villain temporarily went brain dead and overplayed his handUnlikely again but he was bluffingVillain misread his hand. Limit players tend to be older and sometimes have problems with their vision.Pot is big
Villain is not that old (late 40s/early 50s I think) but the other factors certainly weigh in favor of a call.
I think you should k/c flop. Are you only k/r Ax and 2x?
There’s not a lot of floats on this board and you can probably play everything as a c/r
if your flop CR range is 2x only then c/c is probably better to make it look like weak Ax and gutshots. you also dont know if he has an Ace and i doubt you are getting much value by cring if he doesnt have one. he might also barrel King high on the turn.
I think you played it fine. If villain has no bluffs, you can fold, but I assume anyone described as a "good" player is going to find some bluffs. Although I suppose many otherwise decent players might just never 4b bluff here.
