Is there a legit roulette strategy?
CET is having a roulette tournament next Thursday. I got a free invite, probably because I'm Diamond Plus for another 3 weeks. I don't want to show up and just flip a coin and bet red/black like an idiot.
you can make a thoughtful face and then bet red/black
but I assume that anything less than 3rd place is a complete waste of time so just go for a highest variance route and red/black shouldn't be a thing unless you have already run up a big lead and are nitting it up waiting for the shorties to bust
Yes, but you would need to post the format of the Tournament for specific advice.
Acting after everyone has bet can have a huge edge.
I once played a BJ tournament on a cruise ship that didn't rotate last to act!
Just sitting in the last two seats is a pretty big edge when you get to see what everyone else has bet before you act.
A good book to get you thinking about these situations is "Casino Tournament Strategy by Stanford Wong."
To sum it up in a lot of tournament strategies you want a succeed or bust strategy.
The chips have no value if you don't achieve your goal.
Especially if there is only one winner or the payouts are very top heavy.
D.
Would need more details.
I know for blackjack there would be weird scenarios where for example on the last hand you might have to double a hard 19 and weird things like that.
I don't know any of that info. I just got an email that said roulette tournament, lol.
If you find out anything about it let me know, I’m not saying I have a foolproof strategy because there isn’t one but I have one that’s the most volatile.
In a tournament you aren't playing against the house; you're playing against the other players.
Agree with Wong's book recommendation. If you don't want to invest the time for that, put "What is the best strategy for a roulette tournament" into ChatGPT or something else. I just looked at ChatGPT's answer and it might be enough for what you are asking.
Biggest thing you need to be aware of is that in this kind of tournament, the only thing that matters is your opponent's chip stacks and how many people move on. You could be in the same tournament and in one heat, it makes sense to bet the absolute minimum possible on as many different counterbalanced things as possible while in a different heat, you might be best to bet your whole stack on a single number.
Like others have said, need details on the tournament, amount of players, etc. I'm assuming there's no difference between losers so there's no reason to avoid a strategy that makes you the last loser if it has the potential to put you in first. Put all your money on a specific number. If there's a limit you can place on a specific number, max out that number and then make additional high payout bets that will pay off if that number is rolled.
Would need more details.
I know for blackjack there would be weird scenarios where for example on the last hand you might have to double a hard 19 and weird things like that.
Was on the Norwegian “Casino at Sea” Cruise this year. Made friends with a guy who qualified for the BJ tournament and ended up sweating him. He was in that position, doubled on an 18 and found a 2. Dealer pulled a 6-card 20 to push.
All that to reiterate like every comment says, all that matters is other people’s chips. 20 players and 1 moves on, aggressive play probably wins. 8 players and 2 move on? Can probably adopt a passive strategy to start and ramp up bets as needed if people run hot.
Divide your starting stack into 10ths and bet 10 numbers on first spin.
Either bust out first spin or be up 2.6x.
Then maybe divide into 20 and use the first 10 on 10 numbers, if you lose that spin, you have one more shot.
Some good advice in this thread plus some not so good advice! That's the internet for you!
As previously stated if you think along the lines of what do you need to do to beat the other players then you almost certainly have an edge over the field.
If you estimate you need 5 times starting stack to qualify for the next round then getting to four times your stack is like busting, its worth nothing.
I'm guessing most of the players (your opponents) wont understand the edge in waiting to see what everyone does before acting.
As an example if two players ahead of you bet a lot of chips on Red on the last spin, you clearly want to bet black/black numbers so the wins are anti correlated
Betting the same as them does nothing for you if you are playing catch up.
If you have a lead over them, then clearly you have a big edge betting the same as them.
If the rules allow you to wait till the very last second to bet.... use it. That's your edge.
If the format is 10 spins and you find yourself way behind with 2 or 3 spins to go.....just **** or bust on something high variance like the zeros
If you hit then you can then decide what you want to do based on what the next lowest stack does.
Think along those lines and you will have an edge.
Invitation tournies are normally super soft as its mainly degens and ploppies.
D.
They probably think I'm a degen because I have a Diamond Plus card.
Also, because I don't know what a ploppie is.
Aha, I guess I'm both.
CET is having a roulette tournament next Thursday. I got a free invite, probably because I'm Diamond Plus for another 3 weeks. I don't want to show up and just flip a coin and bet red/black like an idiot.
Did you try the roulette tournament? If so, what kind of format did they use and how'd ya do?
we need to know how many participants and the format
ie is it based on how much people have after a certain amount of time or spins - is everyone at the same table? how many spins? or is it a situation where it ends if someone hits a dollar figure (doubtful because then you have a real possibility of everyone going busto without any winners)
without that info there's nothing we can do to plan
but as a general guideline
the more people invovled - the greater the risk we are taking - going from wagers of black/red to just a single number
the more spins before it's over - the more we care about bankroll preservation (it's a -ev game) - if we know we're doing 10x spins, i would sit out of bet the min amount for at least the first few spins - that'll not just thin out the crowd better but give you a greater idea of what you'd need to catch up to those who were betting big early and won
without a doubt - if you choose to play numbers, the highest ev number would be zero - because not only do you win the same amount as if you bet any other number - but everyone else gets wiped in that outcome
if we were playing with a lot of people and just one spin, i'd put it all on zero and take a 1/37 chance of winning - which is a massive edge
A sim could answer this question fairly definitively.
Parameterize # of players, rounds, bankroll, limits, etc.
If I had time I would write it but too busy with other stuff.
we need to know how many participants and the formatie is it based on how much people have after a certain amount of time or spins - is everyone at the same table? how many spins? or is it a situation where it ends if someone hits a dollar figure (doubtful because then you have a real possibility of everyone going busto without any winners)without that info there's nothing we
On just one spin all numbers are equal as it does not matter if others won a bet on red or black as we have more money so they lose.
On just one spin all numbers are equal as it does not matter if others won a bet on red or black as we have more money so they lose.
oh yeah no doubt - in that instance you just want to have a clean number nobody else is on
but if there were multiple spins and you went with a single number strat you'd definitely want 0
Did you try the roulette tournament? If so, what kind of format did they use and how'd ya do?
No, didn't go. I decided to cool it for awhile wrt Vegasing. I'm hoping to try the Horseshoe Circuit event, so keeping what little powder I have dry.
I also got the feeling CET was trying to bone me with the room prices. They seemed awfully high, at the same time all the youtubes are saying Vegas is desperate and giving rooms away. One thing I did notice is if you look at prices and even look for the kind of room you want, but don't buy, prices will be higher when you check back later. Even if it's only a few minutes later.
Bastids.
we need to know how many participants and the formatie is it based on how much people have after a certain amount of time or spins - is everyone at the same table? how many spins? or is it a situation where it ends if someone hits a dollar figure (doubtful because then you have a real possibility of everyone going busto without any winners)without that info there's nothing we
This was a freeroll. They give you exactly zero information beforehand.
yeah that sucks - last year was offered a free cruise for 2 twice but had to fly out to claim it and they refused to give out any info on it so i opted not to go out there as i would have been tilted out of my mind if i got there and it was something like "2 day cruise on lake michigan"
Yeah, I happen to be in Vegas and also recalled getting the invite for it. Looked back at the email and agree, no real info except top prize was $250 in free play, 10th place was $10. I'm wondering since it is at Paris if it is setup with their Stadium Roulette setup, and you just drop in, they give you a tourney entry code to put in one of the machines, and then it gives you a tourney bankroll and set # of spins. Then you just play and try to post a solid score, not really knowing what the leaderboard looks like.
Just my guess as it said tourney play was open from 2-5pm.
ooh if everything is independent then i'd bet the min a bunch until your final spin and then choose a number and put it all on it