Suspected bots on ClubGG MASSIVE union 200-1000nl
Hello,
This past week I have put together a list of accounts that I believe to be bots playing 200-600NL in the MASSIVE UNION on clubGG. 90% of these are active at 200nl. I use a HUD when I grind, and I have been playing ClubGG for nearly two years. Needless to say, I have a relative large sample size on all these accounts, or at least big enough to notice trends. There are probably many more bots out there that I haven't picked up on, but the ones that I will list here all have the same tendencies.
I don't have a specific goal in mind for making this post, but I think raising awareness of how bad the problem really is could be beneficial for everyone. There is an enormous amount of bots playing the 200nl tables around the clock. Perhaps if everyone somehow worked together in reporting them it could make a difference, but make no mistake; many bots are operated by clubs/union itself, so they have no incentive to take them out of rotation. As long as the bots are slightly losing/breakeven/not crushing, they very much like to keep them up and running. They make tons in rakeback and generate volume/games.For those of you wondering where I get my information from; I have been an agent for app games for a very long time, in addition to being a professional poker player myself. I know many people in the industry, and it's basically a well known 'secret' that the MASSIVE union runs bots on a very large scale. To give you a 'funny' example of this; I had an acquaintance contact a well known botting site to see if they were interested in letting him run a bot on his computer in return for a profit split. Their response was that MASSIVE was so heavily botted already that they had no interest in operating here. For those of you offended by the idea that I fraternize with people that consider botting; This is 2026 and I am a professional poker player that has been around for a while. While I personally still try to play the game in a fair way, I also know of many people that don't. There is no way around it, simple as that. You could avoid app games such as clubGG all together I suppose.
All these accounts I will post are similar in two or 3 major ways:
1. They have a high donkbet % on basically all 3 streets. Typically this ranges from 10-20%, but it varies a little (as well as needing larger samples on them to be more accurate).
2. They play a 'weird' limp/call limp/raise strategy. I won't specify what I mean by this, but anyone playing these games probably has noticed this already.
3. In bomb pots they have a very high flop donk % and sizing (30bb in 35bb pot etc).
I have seen regs in the chat acknowledge that they are aware of the bots, and to my surprise a lot of them respond by saying 'So what, they are breakeven at best I don't mind them at all'.
I personally find them incredibly bad and incredibly good/hard to play against at the same time. Some things they do terribly, others well.
Maybe if you had one bot at your table it wouldn't be the end of the world, but lately tables are averaging 3-5. This is not even taking into consideration the idea that they could somehow collude together. If they have a system in place that allows them to share whole cards, good luck getting an edge at such tables.
I have included some accounts in the list that are questionable/potentially not bots. They show the exact same tendencies however, so I have included them. Please note that in the list there are also several accounts that I initially had listed as fish. Some of them have really bad stats such as 40/10. It's possible they are human and I'm wrong on them, but I doubt it. More likely they are 'fish' bots run by a club to get the tables to fill up, and they don't mind if they are losing bots because they will earn more in rake anyway.
Again, it is possible that some names on this list shouldn't be on there, but all of them demonstrate the same playing style. Unconventional limp strategy and high donkbet % on (usually) all streets. Some fish would genuinely play like this as well, but almost no human regs that I know of at these stakes follow this trend.
Some side notes:
*These bots can also be manually operated. Instead of having it be an automated setup, a human can just have the bot give them the suggestions and manually click the button. I mention this because sometimes they can do this to avoid suspicion and just chat a little bit to make it look like they are human. All of these accounts will rarely if ever speak though. Would be interesting to see if after this post they somehow change their habits.
* The programmer of these bots introduced the function of posting an emoticon after a hand is played. You will often see these accounts post emoticons regularly, yet never chat. Something to look out for.
*I had quite a few of these accounts tagged as fish initially. Some of them still have awful stats.
Update; I started mining 1knl since yesterday, and I think I have found the obvious answer as to why these 'fish stats' accounts are operating. The 5-10 format is one with a big ante, so it's 'advantageous' for a bot to play significantly more hands than a regular (no ante) table.
I imagine I will get some backlash for posting this. Some will think I'm exaggerating/not showing any real proof. If agents/clubs read this post if it were to get traction, they will probably hate it. My main goal is raise awareness, and if somehow the community could actually get something done about this crap it would be a win. Perhaps if 20+ people report the same accounts to their agents, they might actually get taken out of rotation. At least it would force them to create new accounts and we might get a couple days of cleaner games.
Here is the list:
Shaky Ced
howdareU!
Seventhgate
sayoDefender
Gzifaha1n
SerolSol
BetAmirTr
23julyo
TayulRW8
Dwanli
ksjhome2
Wolfpaws
BBeticleria
Umish
Ivoti
Kapitanzob
hakdogone
aNANImuS33
fudrenol
assura20??
CardNazzi
Shakiwex
staffordque97
Ethan Boon
Lok_TY
LillianaaF
DeaDDragons
iampoker74
TayulWR8
yeser07
reniel123
merca7st
VanJaded
Tottut
elpumishe
LadiSIAo81
AimLaaKs
FeeBug
Poyollski exact botstats but has done some chat
mm Revelator
Du_ran
LordKraufio
ronikz_z??
pelican82??
assura20???
TelneriaMn???
MadTweety???
Chopstixxx??
yanxhso??
RachaCucAA??
Jacomond???
moreofthesame??
