If you lived in Minneapolis, and an ICE agent demand ID.....
......would you comply. (You have broken no law. You're just walking into the grocery store.)
Why or Why not?
I probably should have said the whole anti ice thing not just in Minnesota because that's what I ment. Clearly it was going on before since the victim was actively trying to prevent ice from doing their job. You guys don't hate the police you just want to be the police. I find it hard to believe you guys care about a single death when 5-20 thousand Iranian protesters were killed in the same news cycle and only 1 of you posted about it if that. Probably some jealousy of a real organized protest vs whatever this spitting and rape whistling is. Or maybe your jealous of the Ayatollah. You guys are weak. Don't give me this virtu signal crap
I probably should have said the whole anti ice thing not just in Minnesota because that's what I ment. Clearly it was going on before since the victim was actively trying to prevent ice from doing their job. You guys don't hate the police you just want to be the police. I find it hard to believe you guys care about a single death when 5-20 thousand Iranian protesters were kille
Almost funny how the resident nazis went from "she was blocking the road!" to "The Ice nazi pigs only wanted to deport some brown people!"
Also: If you whine and cry about virtue signaling, you're basically virtue signaling lol
I probably should have said the whole anti ice thing not just in Minnesota because that's what I ment. Clearly it was going on before since the victim was actively trying to prevent ice from doing their job. You guys don't hate the police you just want to be the police. I find it hard to believe you guys care about a single death when 5-20 thousand Iranian protesters were kille
"You don't post about Iranian protestors being killed, so obviously you don't care about protestors being killed in America, the country where you live and where protesting is a protected right."
Lol.
I probably should have said the whole anti ice thing not just in Minnesota because that's what I ment. Clearly it was going on before since the victim was actively trying to prevent ice from doing their job. You guys don't hate the police you just want to be the police. I find it hard to believe you guys care about a single death when 5-20 thousand Iranian protesters were kille
Meanwhile you want people to comply with government doing illegal **** and take the path that leads to a govt killing 5,000-20k protestors.
I mean it was 2011 I was like 10. it was probably cool back then.... and 81% of somolians in Minnesota are receiving welfare despite all apparently owning million dollar day cares. They are clearly an enclave working together with only them in mind not sure the reason everyone wants to white knight them. its not a race thing its a community and value thing
What in Sam Hill are you babbling about?
And what is your source for 81% being on welfare?
And they 'ALL (apparently)' own day care centers??
I mean it was 2011 I was like 10. it was probably cool back then.... and 81% of somolians in Minnesota are receiving welfare despite all apparently owning million dollar day cares. They are clearly an enclave working together with only them in mind not sure the reason everyone wants to white knight them. its not a race thing its a community and value thing
You probably imagine this is them getting money, but the 80%ish number is any kind of government support and it's mostly mostly stuff like Medicaid for children because there is a lot of poverty. Median family income is less than a third the national average.
"Susan Brower, Minnesotaβs state demographer, told us in an email that, while not representative of all types of welfare, from 2019 to 2023, an estimated 8% of people with Somali ancestry living in Minnesota reported receiving certain forms of βpublic assistance income,β according to the 2019-2023 American Community Survey conducted by the Census Bureau.
She said the public assistance category specifically includes payments from state and federal programs like the Minnesota Family Investment Program, formerly known as Aid to Families with Dependent Children; General Assistance, for low-income individuals and married couples without children; and Supplemental Security Income, which is paid to elderly, blind or disabled persons with low incomes."
And then "all owning million dollar day care centers"
Getting to the point where I'm wondering if it's in bad taste to be arguing with you like this if you know what I mean (of course you don't).
It varies I'm sure by jurisdiction but if a cop asks you for ID obviously you can say no or just not answer. The question is after that can the cop detain you and it probably depends on why they asked for identification to begin with. If they were called by a business owner because you refused to leave their property or something like that obviously they can. If they just th
Laws allow the government a lot of power, even under the most liberal constitutions and legal frameworks.
This is why functional democracy and the liberal state hinges on norms as much as it hinges on laws. There needs to be an assumption that citizens will for the most part keep the peace and pay their taxes, and that the government will for the most part not use its power oppressively. When this works sufficiently well, it allows liberal states to function without an excessive amount of enforcers, with a steady economy, and it allows citizens personal freedom.
When it stops working, the number of enforcers grow, the enforcement grows more oppressive and you can also get civil unrest. When that escalates, the outcome is anybody's guess.
Unfortunately, the trust this entire system hinges on is an invisible commodity. When it works, it is easy to forget about it - both for citizens and politicians. Therefore it is not appreciated how much it is worth neither financially nor culturally.
There are plenty of low trust societies and states in this world. Some are hellholes, some are superficially functional enough to be nice to visit. Though even the latter are not nice places to live for those not protected by money, power or connections.
I don't think it necessarily works with politicians who harp on about this theme. That is more a recipe for countries that have already collapsed. In a functional democracy, these things has to be a given, so citizens are free to care about their own lives. So what you do need is people with a modicum of integrity in leadership and as civil servants. Stable countries are sturdy enough to withstand that people are not perfect, but there are limits to the amount of corruption and authoritarianism you can allow.
what's your point your making no sense I gave two easily googleable statistics there's nothing about per capita in them I know the difference./ The population of Minnesota is 5.8 million there are about 100k Somalis if 87% of the fraud cases are charged against somalits does that not mean somalis are a huge part of the fraud based on per capita? It goes against your point per c
This is based on 78 people. You're characterizing the whole Somali population of Minnesota as liars and thieves based on 78 people.
You're a dumb racist.
You probably imagine this is them getting money, but the 80%ish number is any kind of government support and it's mostly mostly stuff like Medicaid for children because there is a lot of poverty. Median family income is less than a third the national average."Susan Brower, Minnesota’s state demographer, told us in an email that, while not representative of all types of we
Movin.Target's source was cis.org (Center for Immigration Studies), an anti-immigration website whose slogan on their banner reads, "Low Immigration - Pro Immigrant"
In other words, not a primary source for welfare statistics.
I probably should have said the whole anti ice thing not just in Minnesota because that's what I ment. Clearly it was going on before since the victim was actively trying to prevent ice from doing their job. You guys don't hate the police you just want to be the police. I find it hard to believe you guys care about a single death when 5-20 thousand Iranian protesters were kille
When you say so many dumb things, don't expect anyone to assume some of those dumb things were meant as jokes, or to believe you when you claim they were after they are pointed out.
Smart racists, on the other hand, are careful about not posting dubious or misleading statistics and talk about vague notions like "low-trust societies".
Honestly missed that part I was just googling it and that popped up but its a number I've seen a couple times so I doubt that's the only source. I normally wouldn't use such a biased source but its still a source its a 40 year old think tank not some regard on twitter and yes the 82% includes any government support. including food stamps I even included that in my post ?
The former yes the later was obviously a joke about current events. From cis.org (center of immigration studys)"The disparities are even greater for food and medical care, with over half of Somali households receiving food stamps and nearly three-quarters using Medicaid. Altogether, 81 percent of Somali households consume some form of welfare, compared to 21 percent of nativ
I really hate to always have to quote myself.
Microbets learn to read before you call other people names here I bolded the important parts for you
I really hate to always have to quote myself.
Microbets learn to read before you call other people names here I bolded the important parts for you
You hadn't posted that before the post I was responding to and you only posted it after someone else pointed out your errors. I did grunch and was ponied.
I mean it was 2011 I was like 10. it was probably cool back then.... and 81% of somolians in Minnesota are receiving welfare despite all apparently owning million dollar day cares. They are clearly an enclave working together with only them in mind not sure the reason everyone wants to white knight them. its not a race thing its a community and value thing
You were ten years old in 2011, and just two years later, you were trying to sell action on 2+2. Story checks out.
No I didn't you just don't read its post #221 it was like 4 hours ago.
I don't know why your so set on defending a community that wants nothing to do with you. as 5 south pointed out 92% of somolians in Minnesota are us citizens these are not fresh immigrants off a boat they have been here for a long time abusing your system and not integrating. They don't have an excuse to use welfare 4 times more then average and have been proven to be to be working together to scam you with it using Organized crime defrauding the state at an unheard of per capita amount.
Trivia question: What is Trevor Diggface's favourite activity?
1. Lying
2. Hating brown people
3. Both
ah cool were doxing now. ive asked an admin to take down that thread before and got no response because I've had problems from stalkers including on this site not sure how the rules work with 16 year old threads. Now I have an admin linking it to others. Stay classy
ah cool were doxing now. ive asked an admin to take down that thread before and got no response because I've had problems from stalkers including on this site not sure how the rules work with 16 year old threads. Now I have an admin linking it to others. Stay classy
I am not an admin or a mod. You were not doxxed. And I had no idea that you had previously asked to have that thread taken down.
ah cool were doxing now. ive asked an admin to take down that thread before and got no response because I've had problems from stalkers including on this site not sure how the rules work with 16 year old threads. Now I have an admin linking it to others. Stay classy
LMAO, Trevor Diggface posts his own name, then cries and whines about doxxing. What anloser....
yall aint doing much to shake the extremist accusations. I totally didnt just bring up my own name from a thread 16 years ago that I have no ability to delete even after a few requests. I guess its debatable if its doxing but its certainly not nice come get me bob! God you feed me
they should be able to edit your name out of the thread.
