If you lived in Minneapolis, and an ICE agent demand ID.....
If you lived in Minneapolis, and an ICE agent demand ID.....
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If you lived in Minneapolis, and an ICE agent demand ID.....

......would you comply. (You have broken no law. You're just walking into the grocery store.)

Why or Why not?

18 January 2026 at 04:26 PM
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by microbet m

Here's a hot take from someone you think of as a "far leftist": I have as much right to be on this continent as you do.

lol I think that came off worse then i ment I was joking. I didn't consider you might be an immigrant sorry. I was assuming you were some 20th generation european in my head. Even more based if you are !

I can't make jokes like then when you think im racist **** me


by MoViN.tArGeT m

I said childred and grandchildren. Also if you come over and your a preteen I would consider you pretty much born here. But this is a dumb conversation even for us

Some are probably children. Probably none of the people convicted of fraud are grandchildren of first generation Somali immigrants.


by MoViN.tArGeT m

lol I think that came off worse then i ment I was joking. I didn't consider you might be an immigrant sorry. I was assuming you were some 20th generation european in my head

I'm not. My grandparents were all born in the USA and my great grandparents were all born in Europe somewhere. (one might have been technically Asia - Turkey, but she wasn't Turkish)


by microbet m

Are they especially untrustworthy?

I have no reason to think that.


by microbet m

Some are probably children. Probably none of the people convicted of fraud are grandchildren of first generation Somali immigrants.

I would take this bet at 10-1 mostly because you made me research it a bit there were earlier waves. but even if there was only the 1 wave I would take that bet at better odds. There was like 70 of them arrested one is very very likely. you come in 1980 immediately have a kid hes 23. your kid has a kid at 23. That is not even extreme they could have had kids in their teens thats like 6 or 7 years of wiggle room. Its hard to find but the average age for a first born muslim women is probably 23 or 24 and thats counting the more wealthy muslim countrys.

Im not saying they would be the majority but there's bound to be some statistically....

Also the earliest came in 1920 there's kids had kids. those kids already had kids by 1980. Even tho less of them came in 1920 there's more 5th generations that's how that works it was the 1920's Even I have 14 aunts and uncles. they had alot of kids back then. dumbest conversation lol but i loved it


by MoViN.tArGeT m

lol I think that came off worse then i ment I was joking. I didn't consider you might be an immigrant sorry. I was assuming you were some 20th generation european in my head. Even more based if you are !

I can't make jokes like then when you think im racist **** me

Here's some friendly, unsolicited advice: I would encourage to not attempt jokes until after your 'serious' posts start making sense. Otherwise, there is no way for the reader to tell the difference.


In this case, I did not take that comment about getting off his continent as really serious and didn't take offense. I just wanted to show off my eclectic political views.


by MoViN.tArGeT m

Twitter carried hard this was the reported numbers over 20 days ago. add on tiktok and instagram and its easily 200 million+. The only people who didn't see it apparently are in this thread

Twitter counts views as 50% of the video being visible for at least 2 seconds, which includes auto-play videos. Even with those numbers it's still not close to the most viewed (non-music) video on youtube, which I found at >800million from a quick search.

Just on the face of it though, the idea that 100s of millions of people have watched this 40 minute long video is completely absurd and the fact that you even considered it feasible that it's the most viewed (non-music) video ever makes me think your media literacy is on a similar level to your knowledge of US law.


Hey hey I never said they watched it all! The average is probably like 40 seconds. but its the same in any mr beast video 😃. I believe the dumb metric they used to make it sound important was it was the most viewed long form video over 10 minutes other then a mr beast video. Anyway this is a media problem the metrics are still true. Theres also react videos on it with millions of views. I just looked at a controversal right wing streamer and he covered it like 8 times each with over 1.5 million views each time. I first saw it when destiny covered it they dont even count live streaming views where it got at least another million. half the population of the united states still glazed it thats just the zoomer life. your arguments more against how people view videos then the metrics of the video


by MoViN.tArGeT m

Hey hey I never said they watched it all! The average is probably like 40 seconds. but its the same in any mr beast video 😃. I believe the dumb metric they used to make it sound important was it was the most viewed long form video over 10 minutes other then a mr beast video. Anyway this is a media problem the metrics are still true. Theres also react videos on it with million

Suddenly it all makes sense Trevor.


by MoViN.tArGeT m

Hey hey I never said they watched it all! The average is probably like 40 seconds. but its the same in any mr beast video 😃. I believe the dumb metric they used to make it sound important was it was the longest long form video other then a mr beast video. Anyway this is a media problem the metrics are still true

But you made the point in a way to say that it was crazy that people wouldn't have seen it. I would guess that the median time of actively watching it is almost certainly under 10s and that a large minority didn't even consciously register seeing it at all. Even with the reach it has on twitter it's still unlikely for a random person to have any knowledge of it unless they were actively in the right-wing news sphere to some degree (even if just due to getting general news from SM, not specifically right-leaning). I'm a weird case as I'm not in North America but I follow politics somewhat actively, just not getting any of it from SM, and I hadn't heard about the situation at all until it was brought up on this forum.


I saw it on a left wing platform since im left wing on a lot of issues with a left wing American covering it and going over why he didn't believe it. I don't know why left wingers wouldn't want to be informed about this if only to combat the racists!

The point was he claimed it was super fringe only racists saw it. his exact quote
"I think if you weren't racist you never would have paid attention to the story and it probably never would have gotten into your feed"

Maybe it resonated more with Canadians and Europeans . WHO HAVE ACUAL IMMIGRATION PROBLEMS

Its still a top video of all time in a few categories its a weird thing to say


by microbet m

Are they especially untrustworthy?

I employed them. One I was friends with. Never any issues with theft and they were mostly dependable. The one I was friends with was a bad Muslim who smoked and drank and some of the other Somalis had a problem with her. At a post Ramadan party one of them apparently tried to stab her. It created a whole thing at work and my bosses wanted me to fire the one almost stabbed (and crucially not the one doing the stabbing, which was messed up).

She was always complaining about the heat and threatening to go to Minnesota and I'd be like "but you hate the cold" and she'd agree. One of the other Somali did move to Minnesota and my friend was trying to set me up with her which did not happen. Was actually dating a Kenyan at the time and my Somali friend would talk to gf in Swahili which she also knew.

She had been shot while in Somali and her dad and brother were killed.

I can still say good morning in Somali but I've forgotten how to say 'how are you' which was the only other phrase I knew.


by Luckbox Inc m

I employed them. One I was friends with. Never any issues with theft and they were mostly dependable. The one I was friends with was a bad Muslim who smoked and drank and some of the other Somalis had a problem with her. At a post Ramadan party one of them apparently tried to stab her. It created a whole thing at work and my bosses wanted me to fire the one almost stabbed (and

I can say 'how are you' in Swahili (not that anyone couldn't look it up). I learned a little Swahili when I was about 18 because my aspiration at the time was to go to Africa and make nature documentaries. Did not happen.


How hard did they try to stab her? I don't think people are hard to stab if you try at all. I stabbed myself pretty good one time and I wasn't even trying.


by microbet m

How hard did they try to stab her? I don't think people are hard to stab if you try at all. I stabbed myself pretty good one time and I wasn't even trying.

I wasn't there so hard to say but it was big deal within their community but I remember getting the story from my friend's daughter (who was 17 at the time and still a good hijab wearing Muslim) who was like "yeah that bitch is crazy".


Sure. I'm just saying they probably didn't really try to stab her....just talked about it and maybe brandished something and threatened them.


workplace comp scam 😃

Sorry I can't help myself.


Yep.

ICE memo allows agents to enter homes without judicial warrant: Whistleblower complaint


Armed Federal agents on one’s private property refusing to show a warrant is a recipe for a gunfight, (it’s also why the 2A “right to bear arms” exists). Which is exactly what Trump is hoping for by sending ICE in to act like thugs.

Where are all the Trump-loving gun nuts saying theses folks are well within their Constitutional rights to open fire the instant the warrantless Feds bust through the door?


by TheBigEasy m

Armed Federal agents on one’s private property refusing to show a warrant is a recipe for a gunfight, (it’s also why the 2A “right to bear arms” exists). Which is exactly what Trump is hoping for by sending ICE in to act like thugs.Where are all the Trump-loving gun nuts saying theses folks are well within their Constitutional rights to open fire the instant the warrantless Fe

Unfortunately with these ice bozos larping around with their AR's drawn, it's much more likely for unarmed civilian casualties.

When some of these guys eventually get sniped I'm going to puke when the maga snowflakes cry about some of us dancing on their graves. Like what do you expect to happen?


To state the obvious, ICE can't rewrite the constitution with a memo.


by Rococo m

To state the obvious, ICE can't rewrite the constitution with a memo.

So, who's stopping them?


by biggerboat m

So, who's stopping them?

I simply meant that such memos are not self effectuating


by TheBigEasy m

Armed Federal agents on one’s private property refusing to show a warrant is a recipe for a gunfight, (it’s also why the 2A “right to bear arms” exists). Which is exactly what Trump is hoping for by sending ICE in to act like thugs.Where are all the Trump-loving gun nuts saying theses folks are well within their Constitutional rights to open fire the instant the warrantless Fe

No question this has gone to far . No one should be able to enter ones home without a warrant or for extenuating circumstances and you think an Illegal immigrant is in the house is not one of them.
Losing the Minneapolis police department isn't a great look either

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