2-5 line check

I assume both your cards are clubs.
Might raise flop, most villain can't fold a flush on flop, definitely can't fold sets. We only lose to straight flush on flop.

Snap fold river? We beat a bluff.

Ac10c.

Flopped the nuts.

Pretty much the only value hand I beat here is the Kc. Would he ever shove all in with the Kc? If not he’s got a bluff or something that beats me.

This is completely player-dependent. Versus most "tight" players, it's a fold, especially with the fourth club. Is he good enough to bluff w/ the Kc here? How does he see you?

I probably raise the flop. He only has $420 and just committed $100 of it.

I mean, sure I could raise on the flop but if he is bluffing he may actually fold. If he has a set he is probably never folding because he is so shallow so raising here I feel provides no protection from hands I would be worried about out drawing me. I also don’t like a raise here because I’m in position in this hand. There is no chance I’d check through assuming no trouble cards come out.

Assuming the board didn’t pair on the turn I would have probably put him all in on the turn if he checked to me.

To me it looks like KK with the king of clubs

BB raises often puzzle me because most people just call from that position even when strong. So, he’s probably not doing this with A7 or a slew of other marginal hands.

I also don’t think he’s betting 100 with 77, 55, maybe 99. So, as others have said, this is player dependent and I might change my mind watching him put the money in.

I call, if he has a boat - nice hand

You don't really want him to fold a set, do you?

Grunch:

V betting big on the flop from up front should be a very strong hand or a very good draw to a nutted hand. Maybe 86cc but also maybe just a hand with the 8c or 6c in it.

I'd think someone who flopped the stone nuts on this board would mostly check flop from EP, to let someone else stab at it, and bet turn if no one does. So, when V bets big on the flop, I'd be very curious.

Turn check when the board pairs is interesting. I'd think the straight flush just keeps betting, hoping hero either has a flush or just boated up. Then again, maybe the SF gets tricky sometimes and checks to induce, or just checks because barreling looks too strong, and we only have 1SPR anyway, so V can always just jam river if the turn checks through.

River is a tough decision with just the nut flush on this paired board in a bomb pot. I'd rather not have the Tc in our hand, so he can have a hand like T8cc that might play aggressively on the flop. Not sure I could let it go.

I probably call, but it's not a snap call. I don't expect to see KXcc. I'd expect a bluff to be some combo that blocks the SF and had a draw to it on the flop. Don't think I'd shove worse than top or middle boat for value here.

I guess not but it is a hand that can draw out on me and put me in a spot to lose more money. I am just saying that if I am against a set I am not too worried about being able to get the rest of the money in on the turn. If he is bluffing he might go for a second barrel on the turn but he would fold to a raise.

I realize this hand I let my emotions get the better of me. Flopping the second nuts felt so good and I felt I should win this hand, I hated that the board paired and I told myself when he shoved that it would be too much of a setup for him to flop a set and get to boat up against my nut hand.

Obviously that isn’t a good way to think, I think especially given the last club this should have been a fold. Is he really shoving a board with the Kc as a bluff against a player that called a 100 dollar bet on the flop and could have the Ac since he doesn’t have it? I don’t think so, I think against this particular player I should have sigh folded.

He had 55.

We've all been there, including the thought process!

Ugh. That sucks.

You're pretty handcuffed on every street. You could raise flop, but the more you pile it in the stronger his continue range has to be.

He played it kind of tricky. I wouldn't expect bottom set when he leads out with a big bet on the flop.

Funny, your name makes me have to tell this story from yesterday:

End of hand and tables talking, guy’s lamenting that he’d won if he had another jack.

Guy I can only describe as a hustler, talking all the time, but I think this came out accidentally

Said, yea you’re just one Jack off

Came out so funny
Table busted out laughing
Small minds, small amusement

River is whatever, he has basically PSB left and can be doing it with worse flushes.

My big question is how are we not raising this flop? What bluffs does villain even have?

Just click it back, shove any turn. If we flat and an 8/6/club rolls off we’ll be sad.

How is he ever bluffing on the flop? Just raise gii before he doesn’t want to gii anymore.

I don't like villain's turn check for similar reasons that I don't like OPs flop flat.

Recently changed my opinion.
Previously, almost never checked the turn ever
However, when OOP, I’m finding a check far more often.

I believe the turn is more or less the inflection point in low limit poker. This is when you decide to fold or damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead.

By checking, the check-raise is still on the table and you gain info. In this case, the check indicates weakness so the river shove looks more like a bluff.

Bluffs happen, but most of the time people that go all-in have it. You’ve got to get that through your head. I see so few bluffs.

Maybe it’s experience, but I do recognize things that are off, players that are wild, people that I know, so I do catch bluffing at times. But the default is always fold without very compelling reasons. You need reasons to talk yourself into a call, not the other way around.

Hating to get bluffed is a thing, but it shouldn’t be. When a villain shows you a bluff and you can laugh about it and truly not be bothered, no one can beat you in this game.

I’m opened to raising flop, it’s just if he was bluffing and I raise he folds. If he isn’t bluffing he is probably going to bet the turn and even if he doesn’t I have the ability to bet in position. If he has a set then I’m not getting him to fold anyway so there is no denying equity from someone that is drawing to a better hand than me.

I guess if he flopped a lower flush and another club comes on the turn that is where I might miss out on value. There is also the physiological win that if I raised on flop while I was ahead it’s easier to take the loss as I didn’t make any mistakes and the cards screwed me

Villain is committing 25% of his stack into 6 uncapped opponents, what could he be possibly bluffing with.

No he won’t fold and we don’t want him to fold. We want him to commit his remaining chips before a club, or one liner to a straight hits the turn.

IMO the flop decision isn't automatic in a bomb pot. V could have the SF, and just be targeting all other made hands.

I don't think V can be truly bluffing when he comes out and bets large into the field from EP. He has to have a hand. I was somewhat surprised he had 55. We might consider any combo of 2P or bottom set to be a bluff on this board.

He took a strange line with bottom set on a monotone board. You could raise, but you'd be funneling him into the strongest part of his range. If you raised flop and bet turn, you'd be the one bluffing.

Whenever I flop a flush, my heuristic is that the board will either pair or see another flush card a large majority of the time. I think it's around 75%. So in normal hands, I tend to fast play flushes on the flop. In a bomb pot, where we can't rule out a SF, it's more tricky, so I don't mind you flatting.

On a monotone board, I'd almost rather have a set with the 40% chance of boating up than the flush hoping this is going to be the 1 in 4 times the board doesn't pair or see another flush card.

You might already know this, there is a 34.4 percent chance for a boat or quads and not 40 percent.

I was mental-mathing it.

The point isn't how we play the set. It's how we play the flopped flush, knowing that the board is going to run-out with either another flush card or a board-pairing card a high percentage of the time.

The set is actually easier to play. We know we don't have the nuts, but if the board pairs, we beat a flush.

With the flush, even when we have the nuts, it's hard to get paid, because we're either targeting worse flushes that are concerned we have the nut flush, or we're targeting sets / straights - all hands that will shut it down if another flush card comes out. But if the board pairs, the sets improve to a boat, and our nut flush is dust.