1/3 Passive QQ goes Multi

The aggressive reg 3-bettor only has 185. 4! and get it in versus him.

Multiway is not a disaster. You got the others in with worse and you will likely win or lose a big pot. Call the 3-bettor's bet and see what the others do. On T72, no one should have 2 pair, so you should be ahead of anything but sets. Raising is possible, but you want to keep worse pairs in.

Preflop: I don't think flatting here with QQ is terrible. You could argue QQ flops really well because your hand strength is well defined once you see the board. So playing multiway isn't that bad. On many boards, you can actually be confident your one pair is good even multiway.

Like this one! No one can have 2p here, so the only hands that beat you are 22, 77, TT, KK, AA.

Flop: given Villain description you can never fold here, and raising is unnecessary because MP already bet bigger than you should have. Call and see what happens. If other players just call, you can value bet Turn.

I would 4bet this 100% of the time given descriptions and stack sizes. You're calling it off vs MP who is 60BB deep. If UTG shoves and MP calls then you have a tough decision and can maybe fold. You'll struggle to realise equity multiway with a hand like QQ.

Flop and flop action are pretty good. MP only has 50 left, so your action is really aimed at the blinds and UTG. I'd probably call although things could get a little uncomfortable on a diamond turn.

Against an aggro reg who's losing / probably tilting on a shortstack, I'm just looking to get things in with him ASAP. Actually having difficulty coming up with a 4bet sizing. Does anyone really 3bet/fold at this stack size? If not, I think I shove his small stack. Otherwise any raise commits us, so I guess whatever?

Result isn't too surprising when we flatted, imo.

Postflop now becomes a lot more difficult thanks to giving some IO to all of these other opponents (I mean, they're pretty bad IO, but the deepstack is getting about 20+:1). Obviously never folding to the shorty, but also don't want to torch all of it against a bigger stack. Call, fold to a raise, and get the rest in on a safe turn versus anyone else that comes along?

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Hero calls, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls

4 players
(575) turn Td7d2s (Js)
Checks to MP who goes all-in for 50
Hero?

We're very likely stronger than UTG and SB, so we should value bet our hand. 50 is too small, especially with this wet of a card. Maybe 150, or even 200.

Yes I think we can go thin here. The Jack may well have helped someone, but not necessarily enough to overtake you. I want to get value now from JXdd in particular or other diamonds, you might get a crying call from a Ten from someone. Now of course we don't want the diamond in our own hand but it is what it is. But there isn't really a size that we can get away from. Both opponents have 270 left. If we call and someone jams, are we folding? If the answer is no then I'd rather raise myself and there's no size that really makes sense other than a jam which is half pot unless my maths is awry.

Kinda gross turn this multiway as JT ("someone always has JT in a multiway pot", isn't that a rule?) and the OESD of 98 get there. I think I just call the short all-in, fold to any action behind us (no one is bluffing into a protected pot, and most aren't going to go nuts here with worse), and pray for a clean river?

ETA: Yikes, didn't realize we only have a 1/2 PSB left. Gross spot on this card, imo. I mostly attempt to avoid stoopid spots like this by doing something different preflop.

GcluelessNLnoobG

Reveal:
Hero jams, both call
River Td7d2sJs(2d)

Showdown:
MP has AdTs
SB has JcTc
UTG has KsQs
Hero wins with queens and twos

I guess it was bingo. River 2d looked scary bringing in the flush, but actually saved me with the counterfeit. Got lucky!

Although some said they thought the call was fine, I think raising preflop makes my life easier and though I can go small it’s a mandatory bet next time….. even if everyone folds.

Did I miss anything, what else should I learn from this?

IMO, the whole point of preflop is to set up spots that we are comfortable with. If we continually get ourselves into spots we are comfortable with, and purposely attempt to avoid spots that we don't really have a solid handle on, then we'll probably do just fine.

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You needed to raise the flop. You are usually ahead. Can't let multiple players draw cheap.