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Maybe but even if it's better overall it's a compromise over the different interests within the block with relative winners and losers by whatever metrics they care about. So we would have to compare terms to have any idea which is better for the UK overall and that's a very tough job even without the obvious hypothetical of what the deal would have been like if we had stayed. Also long way to go. Deal has to go though a lot of ratification.

dieibtter has many times said he regards climate change as the single most important policy.

The new India/EU deal has a heavy focus on:

Climate rules

Sustainability

Carbon Border Adjustment Mechanism (CBAM)

The existing India/UK deal has far fewer carbon penalties.

diebitter should be demanding we rejoin the EU.

YEAH BUT EU GOOD, UK BAD.

Cracked record, mate.

I knew you'd just throw up some reactionary bollocks, but lol you didn't even know there was a UK-India deal in 2022.

It was a bit unfair to expect any rational analysis from a bigot who refers to the EU as “ze EU”.

So with India's population around 1.4bn, the EU deal will contribute ~€0.18 per capita a year for 2 years.

the EU got this trade deal because Trump has been trying to pressure Modi to stop purchasing so much Russian oil. Modi refused, so the EU swooped in and says they will deal with India without making any demands that India stop supporting the Russian war effort.

Congrats EU. You are now directly involved in supporting the Russian war against Ukraine.

Was referring to you doing your usual trick of avoiding questions about what your actual values are rather than those you claim.

So let's do this again...

If as you say you think climate change is the single most important policy, and the new India/EU deal has a heavy focus on:

Climate rules

Sustainability

Carbon Border Adjustment Mechanism (CBAM)

while the existing India/UK deal has far fewer carbon penalties, why aren't you in favour of rejoining the EU?

because it's not a democracy. I want people in charge to be aware they may be voted out.

How many times.

Ok, so when you claimed climate change is the single most important thing to you in politics, you were talking nonsense and it's all about ze EU.

I also think we should never have been dragged in further, in 1992 and 2004, without referendums.

Here today, gone tomorrow politicians giving away national powers? No, that is just wrong.

Just because there's a nod to environment in one deal, it's not going to change how bad the EU overall is.

Give it a rest with the EU bootlicking, loser.

Yet no referendum on NATO membership, where in some cases sovereignty over the use of military force is nullified, and you're fine with it, hypocrite.

It's perfectly obvious to people here what a wretched and lying little wanker you are. Exposed by your own bullshit. lol diebigot

Yes, because I trust Nato 😀

Or I did before the cockwomble feked up the US involvement.

Sorry, I seemed to have upset you, I know mentioning democracy and its lack within the EU leaves you with no real comeback, and you hate that.

Go lie down, you'll feel better.

This gets even better.

Now you’re claiming to trust all of the EU plus Turkey plus the USA (who you’ve said many times you regard as a basket case) plus Canada plus Iceland more than you trust the EU alone.

Sorry, I mean ze EU.

Looool bitter

Fake pollster Matt Goodwin will be the Reform candidate in the upcoming Gorton and Denton by-election.

The constituency is 30% Muslim.

I agree about referendums Especially after blair promised one.

But take this trade deal with india. It has to be ratified by th eu parliament which is democratically elected. It also has to be ratified by the democratically elected government of all the EU countries. And the democratically elected national leaders take a lot of the responsibility. Even the commission are elected by the parliament.

Why do you not think that's democratic? If anything it's a bit too much democracy.

But diebitter didn't vote for the UK government therefore that's not democracy.

He also has no qualms with long term projects started by "Here today, gone tomorrow politicians."

Meanwhile diebitter supports NATO which has Canada and the US as members and has power of life and death over him, but doesn't support the EU, sorry ze EU, which doesn't. But in diebitter's inchoate and confused mind ravaged by bigotry this somehow doesn't count as giving up sovereignty and diebitter is definitely not a xenophobe who probably does a mock Indian head wobble behind Indian people's backs too.

I have no idea what on earth you are banging on about now, you nutter.

Equating Nato and the EU suggests you've really lost the plot.

Call me a bigot whilst you vilify and whine on about anyone who doesn't exactly correspond to your world view..... lol.

To quote one of the definitions of the word from the OED: "a fanatical adherent or believer; a person
characterised by obstinate, intolerant, or strongly partisan beliefs."

Sound like anyone we know here?

Odd how you left out the most telling part of the definition:

Yes, it does sound like you.

“Ze Euros” indeed. Clown.

Starmer is really desperate to get the Chagos deal done, despite the fact there is no apparent reason to do it at this point. I expect it is part of a back room quid pro quo for whatever updated trade deal he is trying to do with China.

Mauritius has all but admitted the islands would be leased out to China for their own military development. And even if the US kept Diego Garcia, Mauritius says nuclear subs would be banned there.

The Chagos Deal would be a massive geopolitical win for China and its allies like IRGC and Russia, and apparently Starmer.

For various reasons to do with US and Parliamentary objections, the 1966 treaty and the behaviour of Mauritius, it may not now happen. (It was a dumb idea anyway, of course.)

The empire where the sun never sets to this never ending humiliation ritual. What a fall from grace.

You have to appreciate the optical ruthlessness of China going to the trouble to make sure every soldier was significantly taller than Starmer, considering Starmer is probably around the same height as the average Chinese soldier. You know there is about 5 billion third worlders eating this up right now.

If it were true then it would be pathetic feelings of inadequacy from china.

Yeah. Unlike Trump. Your Prez seems to really like metaphorically slurping on Vlad's dick and has constantly undermined Zelensky, propagating lies such as calling it "Zelensky's war", so clean up your own house before whinging about deals with India, which is a democracy and not the autocratic regime your president seems to like cosying up to.