If you lived in Minneapolis, and an ICE agent demand ID.....

Those who chose to run Harris chose a candidate who was worlds better than Trump. The voters simply exercised terrible judgment, which many are realizing now but are too ashamed to own.

Yeah. This is about as profound as a song titled, "Admire my principles. I'm a Marxist."

THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE SHOWN UP AT A PROTEST WITH A DOG

As everyone paying attention knows full well, Gorgo and I won't be joining each other's fan clubs anytime soon.

That said, your repeated implication that Gorgo supports the ADL in any way, shape or form is the epitome of bad-faith posting.

He quoted the ADL one time to address a specific point you made. That's it!

anyways, another unrelated tweet

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If you don't like what ICE does when they're driving around, then stay off the sidewalk.

We just disagree on some stuff. I don't have a problem with you personally or anything. Just wanted to make that clear.

Thanks! Same here.

Except that Democratics spent months following the election saying that Harris lost because of racism and misogyny. So the strategy in a racist and misogynist country is to install an African-American woman as the candidate, then bitch about losing? That requires some top-notch ineptitude.

I didn't realize the base levels of racism and misogyny in the country until I saw seemingly normal posters here turn into blathering imbeciles simply at the idea of Kamala existing

That there is a substantial portion of the population with deep seated PTSD from Obama wasn't clear to me until well after Kamala was the candidate

I would assume most had a similar eye opening experience

i think this read is off

i really liked obama as a candidate - his one flaw was that he chose a vp who i despised - but could understand it as biden was his way to signal to corporate america that he plays ball (if he wanted a white guy to reassure the whites then he certainly would have gotten a more likable southern white man - instead he went with a guy who brought nothing to the table electorally - an unlikable guy from a meaningless state which was securely blue to begin with - what made biden unique was he was notorious as being deep in the interests of corporations - being the guy from the state where most of them are incorporated - he was literally called by other senators "the senator from mbna" as he was crucial to passing vital legislation for them and they were by far his largest political contributor - he was absolutely a corportate shill

https://www.propublica.org/article/bidens-cozy-relations-with-bank-industry-825

ProPublica

Biden's Cozy Relations With Bank Industry

and of course it's not a good biden story without including the corruption extending to hunter (this is from propublica, a very liberal organization and dated to 2008)

he's a outright terrible disgusting person - this is the kind of man in government that gave rise to bolshevism

so i hated that, but kinda understood it as a requirement obama needed to get the big corporations (and the media they own) to not throw their support behind his opponent instead

i also loved bill clinton

i adore bernie

but then after obama - the democrats pivoted sharply towards the type of candidates like biden - choosing highly unlikable corporate assets such as hilldawg, then running it back with biden, and whatever it is kamala was

if we got anything other than those 3 i think the picture would have been very different and trump would be a humorous footnote to history as the cucked out celebrity who ran a disastrous campaign for president

They know they are being filmed and still don't give a ****.

And yet if Michelle had been the nominee we would have a Democrat president so cut the bullshit on racism and misogyny.

The inconvenient truth to that is that Harris outperformed what internal polling showed the old white candidate was going to do. Internal Dem polling showed Biden was going to lose in the worst landslide since 1984.

The last election was all but an impossible election for any Democrat to win. The public was angry about inflation and blamed the Dems for it. No Dem candidate was going to win the Presidency with inflation what it was, IMO.

I largely agree with that summary, but it doesn't change the fact that the veil was thoroughly lifted and then tied to the rafters

I don't think there is anything in existence that supports this claim. My assumption is there is substantial evidence of the opposite

I do understand why you think this

Can someone explain what "unburdened by what has been" means? I still don't understand that.

"Don't let racist bumpkins calling you a chickenhead stop you from being the best you can be"

something like that (the irony, it stabs)

Unless you are indifferent to policy or your views about policy changed relatively significantly over time, I don't understand "loving" Bill Clinton and Bernie. Bill Clinton probably was closer to a centrist Republican in terms of policy than any other Democratic nominee in the last fifty years. Bernie is very different.

Maybe you are just saying that you liked both of them on a personal level.

it means "dont blame me for slaughtering 100s of thousands of children even though I will continue slaughtering children for fun and profit"

Rickroll being a Bernie Bro is big news to me.

My jaw is still dropped from people saying with a straight face that Kamala Harris couldn't form a coherent sentence and simultaneously thinking Donald fing Trump made sense.

Just willful ignorance or racism.

I don't think the saying is poetry but its incredibly willful to not understand what shes saying as a woman of color

I don't think we can know for sure. Bored5000 is correct that the environment was unfavorable for any Democratic nominee. On the other hand, Republicans were running a buffoon who presided over a chaotic and largely ineffective first term.

Michelle Obama the imaginary candidate was probably superior to what Michelle Obama the actual candidate would have been. But politics is partly an enthusiasm game, and she would have had far more enthusiastic supporters than Biden or Kamala, which almost certainly would have translated into a message that was more inspiring than "not Trump."

The Democrats are indeed incompetent. But that doesn’t change the fact that their candidate was worlds better than Trump.

I didn't find Kamala to be at all incoherent. She certainly was less prone to malapropisms than Biden or Trump. She did come off as packaged to me, but that's a stumbling block for a lot of politicians who want to be president but never make it. Avoiding the perception of being packaged is incredibly important as a national politician, but also very difficult to coach. It either seems to come naturally or not.