British Politics
Been on holiday for a few weeks, surprised to find no general discussion of British politics so though I'd kick one off.
Yeah. Unlike Trump. Your Prez seems to really like metaphorically slurping on Vlad's dick and has constantly undermined Zelensky, propagating lies such as calling it "Zelensky's war", so clean up your own house before whinging about deals with India, which is a democracy and not the autocratic regime your president seems to like cosying up to.
Indian and Russia are literal allies. This isn't the gotcha that you think it is. The only reason India is doing this deal is to diversify from the US because it is putting pressure on it for its ties to Russia.
Also, this deal is not a win for the EU. It is a disaster. You should check out the details. You will sell a little more alcohol, and that is about it (The Indian upper middle class does like their fancy European alcohols).
In return the dismantling of your manufacturing and industry will be accelerated, and you are obligated to accept a large amount of skilled labor, to compete with the people already here, and depress wages. And then you will get family chain migration, accelerating ethnic replacement. And billions will be sent back to India as remittances.
Because of Euro regulations, taxes and lifestyle (vacation multiple months/year) it does not have the culture and productivity to handle a large influx of foreign workers and grow. The US can handle a large influx of skilled labor because it is business and economic growth friendly. Europe is not in a position to do so. No one will benefit from this but the banker class, who will get cheaper labor and fake economic growth just by growing the population.
Indian and Russia are literal allies. This isn't the gotcha that you think it is. The only reason India is doing this deal is to diversify from the US because it is putting pressure on it for its ties to Russia.Also, this deal is not a win for the EU. It is a disaster. You should check out the details. You will sell a little more alcohol, and that is about it (The Indian u
I'm not attempting a gotcha I assure you. I'm simply- and correctly- pointing out how your criticism is a bit rich considering Trump's love in with Putin.
I'm not attempting a gotcha I assure you. I'm simply- and correctly- pointing out how your criticism is a bit rich considering Trump's love in with Putin.
Trump doesn't have a "love-in" with Putin. He just wants the war to end so he can take credit and doesn't really care about the details. He has gone back and forth several times trying to get Ukraine/EU to end the war on Russia's terms and attempting to put pressure on Putin to end the war on terms more favorable to Ukraine/EU. Neither side has budged at all.
The EU for their part is adamant that Ukraine not give an inch and bleed Russia (and Ukraine) dry fighting for ever inch of land. While they are directly and indirectly feeding the Russian war machine through purchase of fossil fuels and trade deals with Putin's direct allies. It is an extremely cynical strategy that will likely not do much for most of the Ukrainian people, because they will all be dead. But will weaken Russia significantly, which they perceive as beneficial to them.
Dont get me wrong; this war is primarily Putin and the Xi's fault. Either could end the war right now if they chose.
Putin sees himself as the next great Russian emperor, chasing a former glory that never really existed in the first place.
While Xi is more than happy facilitating whites killing each other, extracting more and more concessions from each side to keep afloat in an endless humiliation ritual. And at the end Russia will probably contract to the big cities in the West, and the CCP can swoop in and take control of the mineral rich East.
But Europe making trade deals with China and India, while directly purchasing massive amounts of Russian energy on top certainly isn't helping Ukraine at all; so there is certainly no moral high ground for Europe to stake in this all around sordid affair.
We shouldn't buy russia oil but the idea we shouldn't deal with china or india at all is part of the problem not the solution.
It's a vast extension of the silly idea we should cut off people who have different political views. It's childish, destructive and counter productive. Its nothing to do with the moral high ground.
Mandelson cementing his status as world champion top resigner of all time
Lord Mandelson resigns from Labour Party over Epstein links
--Cozying up to Xi because you are upset at Trump is the definition of cutting off your neck to spite your face. Whatever the rhetoric, in action dealing with the CCP is nothing but bad news, especially if you are doing it from a position of weakness like Britain is.
Possibly the only thing we agree on is that britain is in a position of weakness.
The politics of going alone means we have to manoeuvre between 2, 3 or more boulders while avoiding getting crushed. It will mean many horrible choices along the way.
No, no no. Becoming a fully sovereign nation ensures we will be best placed to exert maximum influence on others for the benefit of the UK, and if you disagree you’re a Euro-loving cuck forever on your knees to Brussels.
No, no no. Becoming a fully sovereign nation ensures we will be best placed to exert maximum influence on others for the benefit of the UK, and if you disagree you’re a Euro-loving cuck forever on your knees to Brussels.
We finally agree on something.
Both are true.
But maximising influence to our benefit requires very skilled politicians and officials. I have my doubts.
In any case the risk of being crushed can at best be reduced significantly but not removed.
Labour MP Emily Thornberry asks whether "police should be involved" following recent revelations in the Epstein files.
She tells MPs that Mandelson "sent on market sensitive information to Epstein" and told him "about matters of national security".
"Surely this is not a matter of whether Peter Mandelson should be in the House of Lords, this is a matter of whether the police should be involved".
How’s that working out for us now, with our political parties in thrall to foreign agents where we don’t even have a vote and the PM on his knees to Americas and chinas leaders?
Sound very cuckish.
We can possibly agree that Mandelson should be investigated and if theres evidence of law breaking, every title annd privilege removed from him, and arrested and charged which hopefully results in him never being released from prison.
Met Police says it will review reports related to alleged misconduct in a public office
The Metropolitan Police has released a statement saying it will review a number of reports it has received relating to alleged misconduct in a public office.
Commander of the Met Police, Ella Marriott, says: "We are aware of the further release of millions of court documents in relation to Jeffrey Epstein by the United States Department of Justice.
"Following this release and subsequent media reporting, the Met has received a number of reports relating to alleged misconduct in a public office. The reports will all be reviewed to determine if they meet the criminal threshold for investigation.
"As with any matter, if new and relevant information is brought to our attention we will assess it, and investigate as appropriate."
It’s potentially the biggest cabinet level scandal in decades but the only surprising thing about the names appearing in the Epstein files is that none of them appear to be Blair’s (yet).
In a briefing to journalists on Monday, Starmer’s official spokesperson said: “The prime minister believes that Peter Mandelson should not be a member of the House of Lords or use the title.
“However, the prime minister does not have the power to remove it. He is calling on those in the Lords to work with the government to modernise disciplinary procedures in the house, to allow for the easier removal of lords who have brought the house into disrepute.”
When asked specifically whether Starmer thought Mandelson should resign, the spokesperson said: “The prime minister is very clear. He should not be a member of the House of Lords.”
Government insiders hope the senior politician will choose to stand down from the Lords of his own accord, but will swiftly change the disciplinary process regardless. A No 10 source suggested they had received no assurances from Mandelson that he would voluntarily resign.
I'm not attempting a gotcha I assure you. I'm simply- and correctly- pointing out how your criticism is a bit rich considering Trump's love in with Putin.
Trump doesn't have a "love-in" with Putin. He just wants the war to end so he can take credit and doesn't really care about the details. He has gone back and forth several times trying to get Ukraine/EU to end the war on Rus
He absolutely has a love in with Putin and has falsely referred to his aggressive invasion of Ukraine as "Zelensky's war" which is a flat out lie. He belittled Zelensky at the White House and cut off intelligence sharing with Ukraine and falsely called Zelensky a dictator. So yeah he totally has a love in with Putin.
Anyway thoughts on the new trade deal between the US and India? I take it you'll be giving the same condemnation you gave the EU? Or is it different when America does it because reasons?
Surely this all leads back to Blair somehow.
Basic of $1M p.a. from Europe's most corrupt bank, plus bonuses to put him within the range of "senior bankers" ie $4M-$10M p.a.
Anyway thoughts on the new trade deal between the US and India I take it you'll be giving the same condemnation you gave the EU Or is it different when America does it because reasons
I am not the one claiming some moral high ground stance; you are. Trump is being transactional as opposed to principled, but Europe is being every bit as much, if not more.
The US trade deal dropped tariffs on India to only 18% and Trump says he received guarantees India would stop purchasing so much Russian oil (although who knows how true this is). The US obviously lost a lot of potential leverage on India wrt Russia when the EU made their deal; which put no tariffs on Indian goods, allowing infinite immigration (which is what Indian really wants), and didn't make a single demand on Indian economic support of Russia.
If one were going to gauge principles, I would say the US shown a much more principled stance against Russia than the EU with their respective trade deals with India.
No I'm not, you were the one clutching your pearls over an EU-India trade deal and stating they were supporting the war in Ukraine due to this, which sounds like taking the moral highground to me.
Trump is being transactional as opposed to principled, but Europe is being every bit as much, if not more.
So it's okay to be transactional for America but not for the EU?
The US trade deal dropped tariffs on India to only 18% and Trump says he received guarantees India would stop purchasing so much Russian oil
(although who knows how true this is).
Yeah it's not like Trump would ever lie now is it?
Congrats 'Murica You are now directly involved in supporting the Russian war against Ukraine.
The US obviously lost a lot of potential leverage on India wrt Russia when the EU made their deal; which put no tariffs on Indian goods, allowing infinite immigration (which is what Indian really wants), and didn't make a single demand on Indian economic support of Russia.
If one were going to gauge principles, I would say the US shown a much more principled stance against Russia than the EU with their respective trade deals with India.
So you're not worried about *checks notes*
In return the dismantling of your manufacturing and industry will be accelerated, and you are obligated to accept a large amount of skilled labor, to compete with the people already here, and depress wages. And then you will get family chain migration, accelerating ethnic replacement. And billions will be sent back to India as remittances.
Any of that wrt the US?
Starmer admits he knew about Mandelson's continued involvement with Epstein after the latter's imprisonment.
Starmer should go.
Raynor smells blood and doesn't trust the Cabinet Secretary appointed by Starmer?
Badenoch was capitalising on it re Starmer on sky news yesterday.
