Studying with solver and not seeing any results

Studying with solver and not seeing any results

I spent near 150 hours in the last 3 months studying with solver. Was trying all that big picture, focusing on "why" stuff, aggregate reports. But it didn't work for me.

When studying it feels like I learned something, but next day I either forget it or find that my heuristics was really weak and inapplicable at other similar boards.

Also it's hard to distinguish whether something's important or just noise.

What should I do guys? I really like poker, but don't see any significant progress.

07 February 2026 at 09:23 PM
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It's not so easy to separate the signal from the noise if you don't know what to look for.
Get a coach who can teach you to study more effectively.
https://twoplustwo.com/Coaches-and-Schools


maybe you don't use the solver the right way, or maybe you don't use the right solver.
eventually both

what's your studying routine ?


GTO Wizard.

I pick specific ype of boards like Broadway-Broadway-Low study it maybe for an hour, then drill, check a few mistakes.

I guess my main issue is that I review spots for only 10-15 minutes next day


Have you gone over any of the blogs or videos from gtowizard? Some good stuff on YouTube.

I am still developing a study routine myself. I assume lots of HU against the bot over many months until you can start guessing gto moves and eventually you develop higher order studying routines.

Watched it all🤣


Focus on where the cutoffs are in a given spot.

For example:

What is the worst hand I am value betting on this board? What is the worst hand I float the flop with facing a small bet?

Then when you're playing and you encounter a spot you're unsure of, write it down and double check the spot in a solver later and figure out if you were within the correct parameters as you had remembered.

This type of stuff is much easier to remember compared to focusing on individual hands. On a Qxx board it's impossible to remember AA is betting 70%, AQ is betting 80%, KQ is betting 60%, QJ is betting 30% or whatever. It's much easier to remember KQ+ is mostly betting, QJ- is mostly checking.

Bucket things. Flush draws are betting half the time and checking half the time? Check with A high flush draws and bet with non-ace high flush draws or vice-versa. Since you play many more suited aces they're often close to half of your total combos of flush draws.

These are just some examples to get your mind going.

When I'm memorizing a button opening range, I don't have to remember what to do with every hand. I'm just opening offsuit 8s and suited 5s or better.

Also maybe find a video course that goes through a wide variety of flops with a good coach and a solver. Oftentimes they can highlight some of the important takeaways.

Before you know it you'll go from having no idea what to do in a given spot to just questioning whether you should bet QJ for value, or whether you should only be value betting KQ+.


How much time do you guys spend on reviewing learned spots?


If you're a newer player you'll likely want to spend more time studying, but don't worry about what other people are doing. What works best for you so that you can retain the information?

Personally I might only spend 20-30 minutes a day actually looking at solvers in focused study mode. Anything more than that and I'm just going through the motions, and retaining nothing. However I'll also spend time discussing hands with other players, and even when I'm not studying I think about poker a lot. The important thing is finding what works for you.

The reality is that you can't expect to study for a few months and be at the same place as people who have been playing and studying for years. It takes studying, playing, making mistakes, having those aha moments where your understanding improves, and repeating the process.


My suggestion is you find a trainer like PokerSnowie or APT.

I’m sure there are others, but I use these two.

This is active study and nothing is more valuable. They give you suggestions or you can go your own way. When you come across an especially tough decision, run that through the solver.

You need to practice to get better, can’t just memorize. And you need to play to gain experience, but trainers are the next best thing

Finally, if you’re not getting better, you’re likely playing too many hands. Don’t let the solver talk you into to making the call when this nit always has the nuts. Solver says is not the answer, you must discover ‘why’ the solver makes certain plays.

For instance, solvers are very concerned about being 3bet in their calculations. If nobody is ever 3betting at your table, you have to adjust your thinking.

You can also bring your HH or questions here and get advice from a diverse group that loves poker and helping people. Be patient, it takes time to improve.

Someone out there is working a lot harder than you are.


Honnestly the way you study is very oldschool.
like using GTOw for hours to solve random spots, etc. There are billions of different spots. How will you learn them all. Too much data in GTOw and information is not displayed in a useful way. Plus their interface is too slow.
I've had the chance to beta test optimuspoker, you should test it if they started selling publicly, which I am not sure of. This is the next gen GTO/AI study tool, absolutely astonishing. I'd say you learn 5-10x faster.


Hello

We completely understand what you’re experiencing — this is very common when studying with a solver intensively. Spending 150 hours is impressive, but without structure it’s easy to feel like you’re learning a lot while retaining little.

The main challenges are normal:

Forgetting lessons or heuristics — especially if they aren’t anchored in concrete hands. Distinguishing meaningful insights from noise — solvers produce huge amounts of data, not all of which applies to real play.

A more effective approach is:

Focus on specific spots and study them deeply. Use hands from your own database, so learning is directly relevant. Extract practical heuristics that work across similar boards. Review hands actively, asking: “What’s the key decision here? How would I exploit a typical opponent?”

This is exactly what we do in our service. We help players turn solver work into actionable insights, highlight what truly matters, and show how to apply it in real games.

You can check examples and feedback here:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/290/c...

If you want, we can review your database and point out the most profitable areas to focus on. First analysis is free.

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