A thread for unboxing AI
The rapid progression of AI chatbots made me think that we need a thread devoted to a discussion of the impact that AI i
It was never a funny joke.
The funny joke is that it was a joke of the time. You're too young to remember just how dominant IBM were and how much people still venerated IBM and it's management approach despite it having become so obviously ridiculous. And they led the antigettingpissedatlunchtimeification of the London. Damn fine lunches otherwise
I asked ChatGPT for IBM's revenue and profits over the last 10 years. Sure, they're playing great...| **Year** | **Revenue** | **Net Income** | || -------- | ----------- | -------------- | ---------------- || **2015** | ~$81.7 B | ~$13.1 B | ([Wikipedia][1]) || **2016** | ~$79.9 B | ~$11.8 B | ([Wikipedia][1]) || **2017** | ~$79.1 B | ~$5.7
ask it about 1991
IBM earnings drop 91 percent, plans 3,000 more staff cuts - UPI
upi.com
20 Jul 1991 — For the six months, IBM had a net loss of $1.6 billion
Please tell. Which AI experts do you regularly speak to and what do they have to say. Specifically on AI not encroaching very significantly into more expert areas over the next few decades
Handily if they are experts there should be some stuff you can quote
"Next few decades"
oh okay, I didn't realize "soon" was 20-30 years
It's happening over the next few decades and that's now if you're young or starting out. Or just caught up in it as many losing their jobs or riding the wave are.
anyway I'm pleased were on the same page now.
Till what happens? zero value in any human labour?
I wouldn't bet on it but AI has progressed faster than I expected.
We went from no AI 20 years ago to what we have today. Most of what we have today has been in the last 5 years.
In 20-30 years we will have robots that lay foundations, run plumbing and electrical, frames, dryways, shingles, insulation. The whole gamut. There wont be any jobs left. Just a permanent underclass held at bay by 100 trillionaires with private armies.
Current day ICE agents are best positioned for the future. Turns out we were the ******s all along
Future private army members. The only job left in the future
And they are only there because life is worth less than drones
Politics should as I keep banging on and on about, be heavily focused on preventing these kings from existing in the first place. We need to be thinking very seriously about the world where the value of human labour is fast disappearing at the same time as wealth is exploding.
I wouldn't be totally apocalyptic but the current path we are on of making kings is very very stupid.
It's almost worth me living to be very old. I might just to get to see how it all ends.
Politics should as I keep banging on and on about, be heavily focused on preventing these kings from existing in the first place. We need to be thinking very seriously about the world where the value of human labour is fast disappearing at the same time as wealth is exploding. I wouldn't be totally apocalyptic but the current path we are on of making kings is very very stupid.I
Yeah, keep on voting, that'll do it.
Need to off them all before they get to coordi's scenario.
AI should be exactly what is needed to fix all these population crisis claims but we know the general population is not going to benefit as they should (at least the US).
But keep on voting, I'm sure there will be a just outcome.
I'm firmly in valuing our vote and voting for what we want camp. Voting Least Worst is a disaster that is only helping the creation of kings.
At least as big a problem is the denial of what is happening to the value of labour. People still cling to the idea that new human jobs will replace the old human jobs because they did in the past. Sure there will be new jobs but this time we are the horses.
I'm firmly in valuing our vote and voting for what we want camp. Voting Least Worst is a disaster that is only helping the creation of kings.At least as big a problem is the denial of what is happening to the value of labour. People still cling to the idea that new human jobs will replace the old human jobs because they did in the past. Sure there will be new jobs but this ti
Any normal person is for voting but when none of the choices work for the citizen's best interests what are we doing?
Any normal person is for voting but when none of the choices work for the citizen's best interests what are we doing?
Build up demand for those offering a better choice. There's tons of theoretical demand but voting least worst prevents it becoming real demand.
There's other stuff us well but that's the necessary part if we want democracy to work.
We went from no AI 20 years ago to what we have today. Most of what we have today has been in the last 5 years.In 20-30 years we will have robots that lay foundations, run plumbing and electrical, frames, dryways, shingles, insulation. The whole gamut. There wont be any jobs left. Just a permanent underclass held at bay by 100 trillionaires with private armies.Current day I
If computers were never invented, we wouldn't all be dead. We'd be living a 1970-ish life. Same with AI. We can provide for our current living standards without AI. So this is about as bad as things could get.
That robots could potentially produce everything we produce is irrelevant since we can't produce anything they need in return, since they don't need anything.
Build up demand for those offering a better choice. There's tons of theoretical demand but voting least worst prevents it becoming real demand.
There's other stuff us well but that's the necessary part if we want democracy to work.
Meh, too late for all that, we're in endgame right now.
It might be too late. Then again it might not be.
I'd definitely agree that anyone who thinks things will return to the post WW2 world we knew are delusional. Maybe a few years of delusion post trump is possible.
You can vote in America to stop AI if that's your concern, but other nations will build AI and you'll be effed. It's inevitable, just have to hope the robots don't want to kill us.
This has been reported on very lightly by the mainstream Western media. You can find a few articles, but not as many as I would have expected. I honestly don't know what to make of the reporting. It's almost as if many media outlets either don't want to pimp Chinese robotics or are unsure whether the viral videos are AI-enhanced.
Its pretty cool but relatively functionless.
Humanoids look compelling because we are humans but humanoid robots are mostly vaporware right now
You can vote in America to stop AI if that's your concern, but other nations will build AI and you'll be effed. It's inevitable, just have to hope the robots don't want to kill us.
I agree voting against AI and all the future tech would be a very bad mistake. We should invest more imo. The tech is coming either way but that doesn't mean we have to make kings like we currently are - I'd vote for somethign else.
This has been reported on very lightly by the mainstream Western media. You can find a few articles, but not as many as I would have expected. I honestly don't know what to make of the reporting. It's almost as if many media outlets either don't want to pimp Chinese robotics or are unsure whether the viral videos are AI-enhanced.
It's why i don post more on it. China is leading the way on a lot of robotics but it's hard to separate the hype. Despite the flack I got last time, distributed AI systems with robots capable of autonomous behavior while also connected to both each other and centralised systems is coming and it's going to be massive.
Its pretty cool but relatively functionless.
Humanoids look compelling because we are humans but humanoid robots are mostly vaporware right now
For most applications, I would imagine that humanoid robots would be an unnecessary and inefficient design extravagance.
Doing a tightly scripted routine obviously is very different than reacting to an unpredictable and dynamic environment.
But assuming the videos are legit, it's a stunning feat of engineering at a bare minimum.
