[extracted] New(?) 9-11 stuff
KSM got a plea deal. The guy who supposedly masterminded the 9/11 attacks is not getting the death penalty.
If you still
You do realize that's a parabola, right? A parabola is not even remotely close to an approximation of a sphere. You are hilariously out of your league.
Why would you use that instead of the correct formula unless you are just unable to use the correct formula? Do you even know the correct formula?
Ok, can you explain to me what the **** he's trying to say? I thought this was about what height target you could see at what distance if the target is the same height as the observer (which I'd assume is linear with the distance?). That's what he was talking about before with 6 mile long straight canals and whatnot. Is he talking about something else?
"Real math [sic]" is a contradiction in terms. Please see earlier discussion re geometric forms.
No, it's not, and no, I won't.
You wouldn't. And I didn't say you would. What you would need it for is an appropriate application of the formula for earth curvature to the current discussion. So, you're right only in that you wouldn't need observer height unless you were planning on the formula having any relevancy to the discussion. Since you aren't even able to use the correct formula, that would not be the case here.
You would not. What you are confusing is the prediction for where the horizon ought to be, which depends on observer height.
I assure you, I am not even slightly confused. You're the one that is trying to compare the shape of the earth to a parabola.
Ok, can you explain to me what the **** he's trying to say? I thought this was about what height target you could see at what distance if the target is the same height as the observer (which I'd assume is linear with the distance?). That's what he was talking about before with 6 mile long straight canals and whatnot. Is he talking about something else?
No. He's hopelessly out of his league and just throwing out terms he's heard other flat earthers say when they are dealing with this subtopic.
No. He's hopelessly out of his league and just throwing out terms he's heard other flat earthers say when they are dealing with this subtopic.
I'm beginning to get an inkling of a suspicion that Billy is not quite as proficient in the dark arts of mathematics, physics and engineering as he has led us to believe.
I can understand what "dip = drop per unit distance" means. I don't understand what "dip = drop per unit area" means. But before we get to that, why don't you answer how you know what you can see at what distance, as I assume either you or someone else conducted an experiment with the independent variables being observer height, target height and distance to target and various
Jeez, i'll have to unpick later.
Going away for weekend. Please get up to speed with earth curve calcs.
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You do realize that's a parabola, right? A parabola is not even remotely close to an approximation of a sphere. You are hilariously out of your league.
Why would you use that instead of the correct formula unless you are just unable to use the correct formula? Do you even know the correct formula?
The dunning-kruger is strong with this one.
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No. He's hopelessly out of his league and just throwing out terms he's heard other flat earthers say when they are dealing with this subtopic.
You know what an approximation is? Of course you do not.
I'll be tearing you a new one, son. See ya monday. Come prepared.
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You know what an approximation is? Of course you do not.
I'll be tearing you a new one, son. See ya monday. Come prepared.
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If you're suggesting that a parabola is an approximation of a circle under any circumstance, lol you. Anybody who has ever heard the term "conic section" would laugh you out of the room.
Notwithstanding that, 1 mile of distance at the Earth's surface subtends about 50 arcseconds of angle at the centre - about 1/70th of a degree. You can't use any approximations at all when you're dealing with such precise measurements and trying to refute centuries of established science, photographic evidence, and eyewitness accounts from countless astronauts.
Listen to yourself, my dude. You're literally saying that your kindergarten level back of the napkin calcs with approximations (and really shitty ones at that) create some sort of irreconcilable difference all the other evidence out there. You're batshit insane if you think that makes any sense. Any sane person, let alone a member of the scientific community, would accept that there is about 100% probability that their chicken scratchings are wrong.
Of course, I do. Why would you be using a poor approximation instead of the actual formula? Are you capable of using the actual formula or not?
Give us a situation where you are trying to prove your case mathematically where you would prefer to use an approximation instead of the actual formula other than you are incapable of using the actual formula.
No you won't. You will come here with absolutely no excuse for using an inaccurate approximation to make a mathematical case rather than the actual formula other than you are incapable of using the actual formula.
We will all laugh. Again. Because you are being laughed at by literally everyone. Even freaking df deuces wants nothing to do with you.
I still want to know what the motivation is to brainwash us all into thinking the Earth is a globe...
Oh look, Shady's back.
Deuces, I don't know how much you've been following of this thread while you've been on vacation, but we've got a dude here who literally thinks the Earth is flat and I'd still say the jury is out on which of you two is the bigger moron.
You can consider me the bigger moron. It doesn't matter because my arguments don't rest on my authority but their own validity. Your constant references to my lack of intelligence show where your beliefs come from - authority.
Keep ducking my questions and talking about the shape of the Earth though. You want to make a smooth transition and painless into not believing the government on 9/11 as the social pressure to do so will likely overtake you. I can see how pretending this thread is about some stupid flat earth nonsense can serve as a psychological palliative against the wave of reality now crashing upon your fragile identity.
I doubt you understand why you're widely mocked around here. It's not because you have challenged the 'official' 9/11 narrative.
ok yeah separating me from the false narrative of 9/11 is a good first step. Decouple your hatred of me for being right, and you wrong, from the undeniable facts you are slowly getting social permission to accept. I don't want credit or validation from you. I just want you to know the truth, the truth that the people who run your government have been lying to you so that they can steal from you and reduce your power as a citizen (so that they can further and more efficiently steal from you in the future).
You can consider me the bigger moron. It doesn't matter because my arguments don't rest on my authority but their own validity. Your constant references to my lack of intelligence show where your beliefs come from - authority.Keep ducking my questions and talking about the shape of the Earth though. You want to make a smooth transition and painless into not believing the govern
I do think Flat earth and 911 should each have their own thread - and not believing the gkvt on 911 should continue to be discussed. But Flat earth and building 7 wired for demolition both have an identical likelihood and is compeletly different than arguing about govt lies regarding 911.
I agree totally except for the less racist part. I'm anti-racist. I might have been temp banned because, in the hysteria produced by the Zionist propaganda machine, something I said was taken the wrong way. I'm the rare person who would defend Jewish people from actual antisemitism even were it unpopular to do so. You would absolutely not.
I'm the rare person who would defend Jewish people from actual antisemitism
you dont get to decide what "real antisemitism" is. the Zionists do.
Lol Dunces, back with a vengeance. What ****ing questions am I dodging?
And yeah, just like Victor, everyone dislikes you for being right. You two are really birds of a feather. "Of a breed", some might say.
Hey Deuces, what shape is the Earth?
I agree totally except for the less racist part. I'm anti-racist. I might have been temp banned because, in the hysteria produced by the Zionist propaganda machine, something I said was taken the wrong way. I'm the rare person who would defend Jewish people from actual antisemitism even were it unpopular to do so. You would absolutely not.
You referred to a Jewish poster's comment as befitting of the "breed". Not sure how that can be taken the wrong way. Even now you're babbling about Zionist propaganda machines.
So yeah you were absolutely no room for doubt being anti Semitic, despite your revisionism where you come out the hero.
C'mon lots of people like vic. Hamas, Hezbollah, the Khmer Rouge, Vladimir Putin, not to mention those good people of the Josef Stalin Appreciation Society.
If you're suggesting that a parabola is an approximation of a circle under any circumstance, lol you. Anybody who has ever heard the term "conic section" would laugh you out of the room.Notwithstanding that, 1 mile of distance at the Earth's surface subtends about 50 arcseconds of angle at the centre - about 1/70th of a degree. You can't use any approximations at all when you'r
oh em gee. Quit embarassing yourself.
An uncertainty around +/- 0.03% for the distances to the horizon we are talking about. Yeah I think we can work with that. We are talking hundreds of feet of missing earth bulge here.
C U Next Tuesday.
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oh em gee. Quit embarassing yourself.
An uncertainty around +/- 0.03% for the distances to the horizon we are talking about here. Yeah I think we can work with that.
C U Next Tuesday.
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You literally think the Earth is flat, so I'm not sure I'm the one embarrassing myself here, but anyway, STFU and show these calculations that you're talking about and where these irreconcilable differences are. From first principles please, so if you claim some dip per unit distance or per unit distance squared or whatever, show geometrically wtf you're talking about.
