55’s MW.

So we're 6ways here? it's pretty much suicidal betting air this multiway. And all the others behind us to react could easily be sitting there with better. I just fold and and move on.

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Fold, not even close, even many 9x should fold with this many people to the flop

Ya folding seems pretty obvious now especially to such a big bet.

Thanks.

Snap fold, we called preflop to hit a set, we miss we check/fold.

Pre: If it was 1/3 and the BB was aggressive, I would fold pre. In this hand with a passive BB, I like calling 1 dollar and set mining.

Flop: snap fold

Fold flop, move on with life.

How wide are you calling in the SB if it was just limped in a 2/3 structure? It’s only one more dollar but it seems you could get yourself into some bad spots multiway. Would you call hands like J6s, T8o, 95s? Are you calling wider than this? If you play a lot of hands are you looking to fold big or fold?

3b pre. I give button 0 credit for a strong hand after he min raises over limps.

Call pre is fine…but you probably have to x/f if you don’t hit your set. Tough to call a bet OOP with a weak hand and a bunch of players left to act

I don’t think he would have folded if I 3 bet unless I went really big. Also, there were a couple other very loose players who might call the three bet.

If I did choose to 3 bet, what size would you choose?

Grunch:

PRE - we should be playing 3B or fold in the SB, and aggressively 3B'ing an opponent trying to run over the table with lots of small bets and raises.

FLOP - have we seen any sizing tells with V's c-bets? If he's range betting, I want to x/r him. But if he sizes up with value, just make an exploitable fold.

3! or fold is a nice general principal, but not in this situation. Happy to see a flop, and fine with folding this flop to this action.

I fold here because of your position.

In position you can 3bet and bluff when you miss. SB 3bet or fold rule is because you need a strong hand OOP. This ain’t it

I don’t like being involved with family pots because the win-rate is dismal. If you told me you 3bet the button to 40 pre-flop, I would like it better, but I don’t think it’s the best play.

Wait for a better spot, you’re just asking for a tricky situation.

When we're setmining we'd prefer that every single other player at the table is in the pot, which both pads are immediate odds (often meaning we only need a single bet to go in postflop to be profitable) as well as gives us a much better chance at running into at least single person to make a second best hand that they're willing to lose some money with.

In this spot, yes being OOP sucks way more than being in position regarding maximizing our IO. It is also possible that one of these limpers is attempting to LRR (so if a well known one is in the mix I might consider a fold). But otherwise, preflop is completely fine, even as the first caller of the raise, due to the lol minraise giving us a terrific price plus guaranteeing that none of the limpers is folding.

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