USA Goes to War Against Iran
Time for a dedicated thread to the war.
How long will it last and what will be the probable outcome?
change the title to "Epstein Empire attacks Iran" please
Shouldn't this title be something like "The West Attempts to Destroy Iranian Civilization at the Behest of Israel in the Cause of Ethno-Supremacy"?
The range of outcomes is pretty severe. The conflict widened immediately, as predicted. There is plenty of reason to think it will widen further and in so doing widen the range of outcomes, all of which are negative.
The range of outcomes don't include anything good for us or, really, anyone. To the extent you believe the totally bogus idea that Iran poses a threat to us or or allies, attacking them only makes that threat real.
The bad
- Iran can kill our soldiers
- Iran can drain our economy as they sink our large blue water vessels with mere drones, causing requests for even bigger, more crippling Pentagon budgets
- decimate our economy in the short term by interrupting oil production and closing commerce lanes
- ignite a real Arab Spring which sees revolutions in many Arab countries which could spread far and wide which would threaten our existing long term relationships with oil production critical to our economy
- increased domestic fascism in the U.S. on the heels of the rupture of the Republican party/MAGA and it's pretensions to legitimacy. Increased fraying away of civil society, social services and general stability until the "center can no longer hold"
- to borrow a phrase from some 80s movie, "global thermo nuclear war" if somehow Russia feels forced to take action and the conflict escalates
The good
- nothing
Its not a war just a conflict as wars need congressional approval
anyone else read that as hop on fart?
is this antisemitism?
but for real, I dont buy it for a second. Israel is not dragging the US into this war. at most, Israel and the US are just fully fused at this point. but really, even the non-Jewish deep state ghouls want this war. Trump is the perfect conduit and Bibi is the perfect scapegoat.
lol so much antisemitism
It's amazing how manufacturing consent is just completely half-assed at this point.
It's a situation where if the Israelis really do have a video of Trump doing something illicit with an underage girl, and he actually does have to do everything they say, then everything makes perfect sense. If not, there are a lot of questions, the main ones being...
Why does Trump, a guy who is famously unprincipled, amoral, and non-ideological, a guy who believes in nothing strongly and does whatever it takes to get ahead, believe so strongly in helping Israel extend its grass-mowing operation to Iran (notice that all pretense of regime change has been given up on 2 days in).
Why is he so unconcerned about the terrible polling numbers he's getting for the attack?
Why is he content to nuke the Republican party, the MAGA movement, and his legacy?
I'm sure Dunyain can give me some reasonable answers.
3 days in?
It's a situation where if the Israelis really do have a video of Trump doing something illicit with an underage girl, and he actually does have to do everything they say, then everything makes perfect sense. If not, there are a lot of questions, the main ones being...Why does Trump, a guy who is famously unprincipled, amoral, and non-ideological, a guy who believes in nothing s
Why do you think he's doing it?
It's a situation where if the Israelis really do have a video of Trump doing something illicit with an underage girl, and he actually does have to do everything they say, then everything makes perfect sense. If not, there are a lot of questions, the main ones being...Why does Trump, a guy who is famously unprincipled, amoral, and non-ideological, a guy who believes in nothing s
All of this is explained once you realize that Trump is an Israel-loving boomer who tried to start war with Iran in his first term by assassinating their top general. Anyone with a brain that can just look at who his “Secretary of War” and Secretary of State are would know he was going to start all kinds of wars.
Like maybe at some point people should just listen to the cringe liberal winemoms that call Trump the great satan instead of thinking they are cringe because the winemoms know the only viable alternative is the Dems?
Trump loves himself and himself only. Maybe Ivanka.
He only seems to care about Israel because Bibi has been one of the few people willing to kowtow to Trump.
I know what you mean but it's not manufacturing consent. There is no consent. There is no approval. No one wants this. They are just doing it anyway and no one is going to stop them because anyone who could is also controlled by Zionists or is a Zionist. These people have literally taken over our government and are wielding our military, not to mention a mind virus that makes people think opposing the use of our blood to advance their ethnic cleansing project is antisemitic.
But yeah, it's like if you're just going to say things everyone knows you do not remotely believe then why bother? Just come out and say this is what we're doing if you think you can stop us go right ahead and try and our goyboy goonsquad will get you.
If you go back through my posts, you’ll see that I am pretty consistent on listing that Trump will let Israel do anything as a reason not to vote for him and to vote for Kamala. Despite her consistent rhetorical support for Israel she had much stronger critiques of them.
On the campaign trail, Trump often touted that if you didn’t vote for him you weren’t a real Jew, because he has the strongest support for Israel of any president ever. It’s not exactly hard to see that a guy who has received tens of millions of dollars from the Addlestein's would let Israel have a blank check for their actions. The only time he even gave milquetoast critique of Israel was when Bibi was lukewarm in his support of Trump, or when he thought there was some electoral advantage to playing both sides.
If you are doing anything other than actively trying to give your life so that fatsos from Brooklyn can safely move into the Gaza strip and toast to the obliteration of the Palestinian people from our collective consciousness, then it is said you are in a state of antisemitism. Once you are in this state of antisemitism, then everything you do is antisemitic.
I know what you mean but it's not manufacturing consent. There is no consent. There is no approval. No one wants this. They are just doing it anyway and no one is going to stop them because anyone who could is also controlled by Zionists or is a Zionist. These people have literally taken over our government and are wielding our military, not to mention a mind virus that makes p
So mods... just going to allow blatant antisemitism on here?
I mean, if he wants to criticize Israel or whatever... fine, but he's literally using age old tropes of Jews controlling and pulling strings.
WTF
Well... the AIPCA does seemingly have an unimaginable amount of influence over our government through direct funding of both sides and we have inexplicably tied ourselves to the hip of Israel.
There is also a viable somewhat academic conspiracy theory that the Republican party has been fully co-opted by religious zealots who believe that Trump is a vehicle to the rapture
So I dunno. It might be a trope of racism and conspiracy but sometimes reality is stranger than fiction
