Is the min click raise ever good?
Are there situations where it is a good approach?
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it's the bet size that offers the best pot odds, and thus will get called the most often
I would guess there are situations where that's good.
Just a hunch tho
Prolly certainly fine if it's an all-in of the effective stack.
My guess also ~fine if we have the board locked up and we're looking to build the pot as big as possible without losing anyone.
Might also be an argument for it when bluffing and trying to get them to put in more money on this street to setup the eventual steal on the next street while leaving a big enough stack to do so, maybe?
Might be some other cases too? Although I have to admit my hazy mush memory can't recall the last time I've been in a situation where I decided the minclick was likely the best of all my options.
GcluelessminclickingnoobG
V bets flop too much for too big a size, you are OOP and if you call he's likely to check a bunch of turns. Min. raise then becomes a great leverage bet.
Also sometimes can be genius to raise small if you can leverage a short stack vs. a big one (where a normal raise wouldn't reopen the betting when the short stack shoves) .
Also sometimes can be genius to raise small if you can leverage a short stack vs. a big one (where a normal raise wouldn't reopen the betting when the short stack shoves) .
+1 to the re-open the betting strat for sure, I forgot about this one (and this actually comes up semi-regularly in games that can feature mini-stacks)
Gcluelessmini-stacknoobG
I like the paradigm where V is polar and we have air or close-to-air. Clicking it = V 3! or calls IP with the nuts and folds his air.
Also because you're raising so small your bluff can be more efficient (combos folded per $).
That's what I was trying to accomplish in my 57s hand but V wasn't polar - he was mega linear on an A-high flop betting into multiple people IP.
I like the paradigm where V is polar and we have air or close-to-air. Clicking it = V 3! or calls IP with the nuts and folds his air.
Also because you're raising so small your bluff can be more efficient (combos folded per $).
That's what I was trying to accomplish in my 57s hand but V wasn't polar - he was mega linear on an A-high flop betting into multiple people IP.
Villain wasn't polar, and also you didn't have air.
I do think there are some (mostly exploitative) cases where a minclick can be good. A couple more that no one has mentioned yet:
1. You have the effective nuts and your opponent is clearly bluffing with air. They'll never call a "real" raise, but a minclick could induce a reraise bluff.
2. You're in position facing a bet from a predictable opponent. You know if you call they're likely to make a large bet on the next street. Sometimes you can minclick, and it will freeze them and cause them to just call and check the following street. So you get to showdown cheaper (if you're making this play on the turn) or you get to see all five cards cheaper (if you're making this play on the flop with something like a draw).
