USA Goes to War Against Iran
Time for a dedicated thread to the war.
How long will it last and what will be the probable outcome?
But "if" we did decide to, I'm thinking it would have to be on the scale of Normandy, ɓig paratrooper drops and a massive amphibious landing.
If?
Your boy Trump just said yesterday: "We haven’t talked about it. At some point, maybe we will. It would be a great thing. Right now, we’re just decimating them. We haven’t gone after it but something we could do later on. We wouldn’t do it now."
Of course, "later on" in Trump speak is anytime between tomorrow and who knows when. Naturally, when he sends in the troops, 57 and PF will be like, "Yeah, well, it's totally different now. That was a week ago. Now it's just clean up, brah."
It doesn't seem like ground troops are feasible even if they want them. It's possible that they'll try to goad Iran into doing something so drastic (by bombing some more schools perhaps) where the public starts demanding it, but even if they did Iran is too mountainous to invade and their missile strikes too accurate.
There’s a reason a direct war with iran was never on the table until the stupidest person to ever be elected to public office became presidentIran has a strong military, not strong enough to win obviously, but certainly FAR more than what Afghanistan and Iraq had during those boondogglesOf course not even mentioning china and Russia probably being furious about all of thi
this is just not true. while it might have a better military then iraq did 20 years ago. THAT WAS 20 YEARS AGO. The us military increased the gap in the last 20 years more then iran did they couldnt even find sam's 30 years ago now they have lost zero planes . Afghanistan only wins because they live in the mountains. Persians live in citys... without water. They are more subjectable to small changes then goat herders.
80% of iranians live in citys vs 25% of afgans. They are way more centralized and dependent on goverment
this is just not true. while it might have a better military then iraq did 20 years ago. THAT WAS 20 YEARS AGO. The us military increased the gap in the last 20 years more then iran did. Afghanistan only wins because they live in the mountains. Persians live in citys... without water. They are more subjectable to small changes then goat herders.80% of iranians live in citys vs
They're using missiles to take out billion dollar radars. Not something Iraq or Afghanistan was capable of.
You think that matters? The Us missles fired are worth more then the target its never about money with them. The point was an air campaign is more effective vs a centralized state vs people living in caves. ITs easier to get city dwellers to revolt because they are usually a couple days away from starvation or running out of water . Another interesting thing is Russia will no longer be able to get their drones from Iran. Altho people are pretty unsure if this will be a huge impact or nothing
also iran is going to run out of missiles pretty soon their daily amount fired is in decline. only like 1 in 30 hit anyway. (they fire less then 30 a day)
you got me thinking so I had to find out you spend about 1 trillion on military a year. in 8 days of war there's an estimated 2 billion dollars of damage caused by iran. Not even sure thats all to America but lets say it is.
365%8=45.6
1 trillion %365= 2.7 billion
So the us military spends about 2.7 billion on military a day. in 8 days iran did 2 billion dollars of damage or 342 million damage per day.
2.7 billion % 342 million = 7.8
so the us spends 7.8x more per day then the damage iran is doing per day in the 8 days of the war. This is easily sustainable
And this is the start of the war when they can do the most damage. Its only getting worse from there.
The us can chill and bomb them for decades without it affecting their checkbook. It only becomes a problem if they send in troops. Realistically iran would have to do a land invasion of a us allie to make it too annoying for the us. but they don't really border any viable targets. azerbbaijan maybe. but theres a reason no muslim country has won an offensive war in like 300 years
you got me thinking so I had to find out you spend about 1 trillion on military a year. in 8 days of war there's an estimated 2 billion dollars of damage caused by iran. Not even sure thats all to America but lets say it is. 365%8=45.61 trillion %365= 2.7 billionSo the us military spends about 2.7 billion on military a day. in 8 days iran did 2 billion dollars of damage or 342
Iran can literally destroy Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, Qatar, and do serious damage to Israel. With the gcc counties destroyed there goes the petrodollar and the only thing maintaining the US economy. They have all of the leverage. The US cannot stop the Iranian hypersonic missiles. There is no shield or missile defense for them.
lol go look at a map google irans remaining airforce and navy and tell me how they are going to destroy any of those country's. Ukraine's been hit by Iranian drones for like 5 years and they are fine. . A land invasion is their best bet but unfortunately they don't share a land border with any of those country's. Their drone warfare is definitely cost effective but I don't think the money matters very much.
azerbaijan is the one us Allie sharing a border with iran which is interesting. The kurds are coming
lol go look at a map google irans remaining airforce and navy and tell me how they are going to destroy any of those country's. A land invasion is their best bet but unfortunately they don't share a land border with any of those country's. Their drone warfare is definitely cost effective but I don't think the money matters very much
They don't have to invade them they destroy their desalinization plants and cut off their food. Then everyone has to leave.
They don't have to invade them they destroy their desalinization plants and cut off their food. Then everyone has to leave.
with what drones? you think they have unlimited amounts of those? they been giving them all to russia. Those country all have military's currently not attacking iran. Its a bold strategy. I can't tell if your trolling. A 1v1 war between iran and SA would likely end in a stalemate. Iran's main advantages over is neighbors isn't its technology in the air and sea. its their manpower
unfortunately for the Iranians they dont understand how counting works and they accidentally gave away all of their drones to another country. sad!
Iran named Mojtaba Khamenei, a son of the recently killed supreme leader, as his father’s successor, according to a statement from top clerics published on state media early Monday local time, signaling the continuity of hard-line theocratic rule as Israeli and U.S. airstrikes pound the country.
Who would even want that job right now?
Looks like a lot of the more recent bombing is going after Iran's internal security forces-- protest suppression, morality police, etc.
Revolution coming is my guess.
Wow, oil now up 30 percent since Friday; Dow futures down 1,200.
I read they had an estimated 30,000 to 50,000.
But again, why would they use the drones when they have unstoppable missiles?
are you trolling? the percentage of Iranian misses that hit their target are well under 5 or 10% if were being generous. I agree their drone ability is on a different level. their missles are borderline useless other then wasting American money shooting them down. Their not really going to damage american assets. they can go after the assets of country's they are not at war with but that brings other problems
I read they had an estimated 30,000 to 50,000.
But again, why would they use the drones when they have unstoppable missiles?
I think there is an issue with the launchers. They have to move them after every launch and amero-Israel is constantly scanning for them. Plus they have plantir software looking for patterns and probabilities where future launchers will come from.
On the flip side, the ragtag Houthis were able to shut down the red sea with Iranian tech and there was nothing the us could do to stop it. Iran just needs to keep that straight closed but at the same time there are way more US assets looking for those strike teams. If Iran has good decentralized units, they can inflict a lot of global pain.
with what drones? you think they have unlimited amounts of those? they been giving them all to russia. Those country all have military's currently not attacking iran. Its a bold strategy. I can't tell if your trolling. A 1v1 war between iran and SA would likely end in a stalemate. Iran's main advantages over is neighbors isn't its technology in the air and sea. its their manpow
US stockpiles are not great and the Ukraine war exposed their pitiful manufacturing capacity to fill stock. We'll find out soon enough who has the bigger bag.
