USA Goes to War Against Iran
Time for a dedicated thread to the war.
How long will it last and what will be the probable outcome?
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The whole narrative of Trump being some kind of savant negotiater seems to have died completely. Tearing up the Iran deal then having to go to war because they started doing stuff they stopped when the deal was in place is an insane blunder. Sending Witkofff anf Kushner who had no knowledge of the region or nuclear treaties as the final effort should be more universally criticized.
Do people realize that fertilizer is a petroleum product and food is a fertilizer product?
Food comes from the grocery store, idiots.
Netanyahu has a proof of life video but it might also be ai. Fingers are correct though.
Trump’s only out in this boondoggle is the literal worst case option which, given his ‘maybe we’ll just keep bombing for fun’ nonsense seems likelier and likelier
Given what this idiot has done already for literally no rhyme or reason, the least terrible option (but still truly terrible option) is boots on the ground and a commitment to regime change. I don’t advocate this at all, but considering the alternatives at this point I do not believe there is a better option. The execution of this will be worse than what it was done in Iraq and Afghanistan combined but this is kinda what you signed up for at this point cuz the alternative is:
Knowing that trump ****ed up randomly co-signing on bibi’s bloodlust bullshit, he will commit to bombing whatever the can and going home declaring total victory. Iran’s regime while declare Khamenei (and potentially his son I guess) martyrs and continue to do what they’re doing now. Or, worse yet, the regime crumbled and the vacuum is filled by significantly worse actors. Trump spends the next few months claiming that iran is no longer a threat while they in turn actually destabilize the region which was already hanging on by a thread before these idiots decided to bomb for fun
Probably Iran will just keep sending missiles and drones to any and every US base in the region and/or attack the gcc countries until they agree to kick out the US. At that point Iran will have total victory, the petrodollar will be dead, and the US will crumble.
It's either that or nuclear war in which case Russia and China probably step in. No good outcomes. Boots on the ground is basically impossible. They would just annihilate any troops with drones and missiles.
People seem to think that Iran is the same as Iraq, or Afghanistan, or Syria, or some of the other states we've beat up but they're on another level and not like any adversary the US has faced since WW II or Korea.
Just leaving and saying this is all you wanted to accomplish is way better than boots on the ground. An extended ground based war with all the logistics involved managed by Trump and Hegseth is just a no go from the start.
Just leaving and saying this is all you wanted to accomplish is way better than boots on the ground. An extended ground based war with all the logistics involved managed by Trump and Hegseth is just a no go from the start.
You would think, but I dunno that that’s true
Leaving this fiasco to its own devices and leaving it with absolutely nothing but killing an ayatollah, bombing the **** out of as much of the country as was available, getting absolutely nothing diplomatically and creating more of a hellscape in the Middle East than what existed when you tore up the nuclear deal cuz you were mad obummer was the one who did it creates a total unknown of likely chaos that you created for no reason and got nothing out of
If trump wanted to assassinate khameni and do nothing else, that’d be one thing. Not a great thing, but at least you could theoretically walk away and declare victory. He took it further by continuing an ambiguous bombing campaign with no stated purpose and has, to this point, gotten absolutely nothing out of it but creating global chaos singlehandedly for absolutely no reason
It is, vastly understating it, alarming that the sitting president of the United States is pulling this **** unilaterally and has no idea why or what he wants to achieve
Probably Iran will just keep sending missiles and drones to any and every US base in the region and/or attack the gcc countries until they agree to kick out the US. At that point Iran will have total victory, the petrodollar will be dead, and the US will crumble.
sick. Trump would be the greatest president in history.
Probably Iran will just keep sending missiles and drones to any and every US base in the region and/or attack the gcc countries until they agree to kick out the US. At that point Iran will have total victory, the petrodollar will be dead, and the US will crumble.
That's not going to happen.
I agree Trump doesn't have any clear goals or know what he's doing. Which hopefully makes it easier to just stop.
A lot of fantasies being thrown around like the Saudis aligning with Iran to kick out the USA because of a few missiles. Lmao.
There’s more chance of Trump leading a ground invasion himself on horseback.
It’s well known that the average person is dumb as ****. Why do you think the elites are investing in private islands, rockets and AI that controls the masses? If you’re a middle of the road elite you have to settle for an isolated ranch in Wyoming.
Edited American to people because Americans aren’t special