USA Goes to War Against Iran
Time for a dedicated thread to the war.
How long will it last and what will be the probable outcome?
"Whoopsies... missed seeing 7-12yo girls going into that military base every day for the past ten years." It doesn't matter as you'll only believe what the US government tells you. The World Health Organization confirmed 13 hospitals and other medical facilities were bombed, but that's not boy Fireball Pete telling you that, so you'll disregard it. And you certainly will disre
13 medical facilities were hit with minimal casualties. It really doesn’t seem like killing civilians in schools and hospitals is as close to standard procedure as your fantasy suggests.
"Whoopsies... missed seeing 7-12yo girls going into that military base every day for the past ten years." It doesn't matter as you'll only believe what the US government tells you. The World Health Organization confirmed 13 hospitals and other medical facilities were bombed, but that's not boy Fireball Pete telling you that, so you'll disregard it. And you certainly will disre
Based off the guardian report, sustaining shrapnel damage was enough to say that a hospital/medical center was “hit” which is not the same thing as being bombed.
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And it was proven it was intentional and you and John kept making excuses in between spitting out boot polish.
Proven huh? By who you? The only sources I found saying it was likely intentional - meaning the US knew it was a school - were Iranain state media and Al Jazeera. You're actually more certain than Iran. The overwhelming consensus is that it was an Intel failure of sorts.
Based off the guardian report, sustaining shrapnel damage was enough to say that a hospital/medical center was “hit” which is not the same thing as being bombed.
LandOLakes has trouble with words that aren't profane.
Based off the guardian report, sustaining shrapnel damage was enough to say that a hospital/medical center was “hit” which is not the same thing as being bombed.
Right. And tens of thousands of people who died in Hiroshima when the blast went off due to sustaining shrapnel damage weren't bombed either. Is it your contention that the US military is unaware of the radius and damage from the blast of tomahawk missiles?
Shrapnel damage that takes out 22 floors is a little undersold here.
Proven huh? By who you? The only sources I found saying it was likely intentional - meaning the US knew it was a school - were Iranain state media and Al Jazeera. You're actually more certain than Iran. The overwhelming consensus is that it was an Intel failure of sorts.
And people saying that Pretti and Good were executed in the streets are just Democrats and NYT. The overwhelming consensus (you know, Trump, Noem, Homan, Patel, Miller, Bondi) is that they were domestic terrorists.
13 medical facilities were hit with minimal casualties. It really doesn’t seem like killing civilians in schools and hospitals is as close to standard procedure as your fantasy suggests.
I'm sure the casualty number is higher ten days after that article was published. Of course if it's your kid that's killed then it's not a minimal casualty, eh?
As for standard procedure, have you ever cracked open a history book? How about Iraq war? No civilian targets, eh?
Now remember this is the Trump administration. Have you even listed to anything Trump has said about bombing chit?
Let’s be clear folks, the Supreme leader of Iran is not doing well. The leader of Israel is doing great and very much alive. In fact, he was in a Tel Aviv coffee shop today. Sorry to bumb you haters out.
Let’s be clear folks, the Supreme leader of Iran is not doing well. The leader of Israel is doing great and very much alive. In fact, he was in a Tel Aviv coffee shop today. Sorry to bumb you haters out.
So people are saying he should have been spilling that coffee from the angle he was holding the cup and idk...it looks close.
Also apparently that video is from 2024.
NGL the physics of that coffee are incredible. It's filled to the brim and he's waving it around.
Right. And tens of thousands of people who died in Hiroshima when the blast went off due to sustaining shrapnel damage weren't bombed either. Is it your contention that the US military is unaware of the radius and damage from the blast of tomahawk missiles?
You'd think that with all the covert op resources the U.S. has, they could build a missile that they could conclusively prove malfunctioned.
And people saying that Pretti and Good were executed in the streets are just Democrats and NYT. The overwhelming consensus (you know, Trump, Noem, Homan, Patel, Miller, Bondi) is that they were domestic terrorists.
I don't know anything about that or see how it's relevant.
I'm sure the casualty number is higher ten days after that article was published. Of course if it's your kid that's killed then it's not a minimal casualty, eh?
Best somewhat confirmed civilian casualties count is 1,300 along with 9 hospitals out of service.
Right. And tens of thousands of people who died in Hiroshima when the blast went off due to sustaining shrapnel damage weren't bombed either. Is it your contention that the US military is unaware of the radius and damage from the blast of tomahawk missiles?
Shrapnel damage that takes out 22 floors is a little undersold here.
Being hit by shrapnel is no joke. It doesn’t generally cause a building to collapse though, killing or mortally wounding everyone inside. Whereas a conventional bombing if it’s a direct hit generally will.
It was pointed out earlier in the thread that the smallest nuclear bombs are much stronger than the strongest conventional bombs, and the area of effect is much larger, so the distinction between a direct hit and an indirect hit are likely much smaller.
This isn’t defending any of the actions of the US or Israel, I think clarity is just helpful in these situations. I agree with your overall point about the lack of regard for civilians, and Hegseth and Trump has stated as such.
Srs, brah?
You think every highest level person in the Trump administration outright lying about American citizens being shot in the streets at the hands of the US government is not relevant to how they are also reporting the events of a war?
Best somewhat confirmed civilian casualties count is 1,300 along with 9 hospitals out of service.
Somewhat confirmed by whom?
Originally Posted by Dunyain View Post
LOL. That guy is in a coma. He isn't planning anything. Basically what has happened is a coupe where the IRGC has seized political power from the clerics, using this guy's inert body as a prop to provide legitimacy (that I guarantee no one in Iran is buying; just stupid Westerners)
Well, I still question this but you could certainly be correct. Anyways, I really don't think it matters very much in the grand scheme of things whether they kill him and the next 10 down the list because the system looks to be designed to churn out the next poor bastard into perpetuity which is one of the reasons why this war is dumb.
Iran's new leader 'disfigured' and in a 'coma' after not being seen since deadly US strike
His son was named as his replacement on Sunday. Mojtaba Khamenei reportedly "lost at least one leg and is in a coma" a source told The Sun.
He is also said to have damage to his stomach or liver. He is not currently thought to be overseeing the strategy driving instability in energy markets. The source, reportedly located in Tehran, shared information regarding the new leader's medical condition, treatment, whereabouts, and security measures.
Well, I still question this but you could certainly be correct. Anyways, I really don't think it matters very much in the grand scheme of things whether they kill him and the next 10 down the list because the system looks to be designed to churn out the next poor bastard into perpetuity which is one of the reasons why this war is dumb.
They may be able to churn out the leaders but they will no longer be able to churn out the weaponry.
They may be able to churn out the leaders but they will no longer be able to churn out the weaponry.
It matters when you pretend to be there for regime change. The threat of Iran and their weapons towards American civilians is microscopic to essentially zero compared to the threat of the choices you make in your own daily life. Andi if it's the weapons that are of concern, you've got plenty of avenues to solve that in other ways.
The State Department announced it is offering a $10 million reward for information about Iran's new Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei and "key leaders of IranÂ’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) and its component branches.
Probably Iran will just keep sending missiles and drones to any and every US base in the region and/or attack the gcc countries until they agree to kick out the US. At that point Iran will have total victory, the petrodollar will be dead, and the US will crumble.It's either that or nuclear war in which case Russia and China probably step in. No good outcomes. Boots on the groun
China gradually (or suddenly) increasing it's role is a decent bet. They are Iran's allies and the natural power to step up if/when the usa gets bored or missteps too much (or even, staggeringly stupid as this sounds, the usa invites them). Who knows what the other countries will then do but it's become a very low bar for china to be more attractive than the west.
On his flight back to Washington overnight, the US president said he had talked to "about seven" countries about "policing" the Strait of Hormuz.
Trump named China as one of those nations, emphasising that it is heavily reliant on shipments of oil which travel through the waterway.
Trump warned that if there was no response from other nations, it could be "very bad for the future of Nato", adding that the US has been "very sweet" to its European allies.
the US has been "very sweet" to its European allies
I can't.
