A thread for unboxing AI
The rapid progression of AI chatbots made me think that we need a thread devoted to a discussion of the impact that AI i
There is a person in my town who drives the Miku Mbl (mobile)
Its exactly what you would imagine
Meta laying off 20% of its staff
This totally isn’t going to get worse for American workers
what's your solution? ban ai?
This isn’t a great example, because the automobile industry also created a ton of other jobs. So many in fact, that transportation progress beyond the automobile has been severely hindered.
AI/robotics/etc will also create tons of other jobs.
Some still haven't grasped that AI/robotics/etc will do so many of these other jobs as well
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AI/robotics/etc will also create tons of other jobs.
Some still haven't grasped that AI/robotics/etc will do so many of these other jobs as well
Yup
This isn’t a great example, because the automobile industry also created a ton of other jobs. So many in fact, that transportation progress beyond the automobile has been severely hindered.
people thought this way as well, we're in the transition period - but we're going to get a lot of people sprouting up entirely new industries on the backbone of ai
Sure, there will be some. But, thinking it will match the jobs created by automobiles is being extremely optimistic. Overall, that transition created more jobs than it displaced. I simply don’t think that’s going to happen with AI. As chez points out, quite a few of the jobs created here will immediately be taken by AI.
Just listen to some of these ****ers like Altman speak, they don’t want or care about human workers. They want to optimize this stuff all the way to the bottom. Until some kind of UBI gets sorted, the landscape won’t be pretty for the peasants.
oh no, it definitely created fewer jobs than it replaced
i don't think you quite understand the amount of our economy was infused in horses and horse upkeep
the entire reason why old houses in cities have those raised porches was so when the horseshit piled up high enough it wouldn't block their door entrance
Okay, assuming you’re correct, I’m just confused at your mocking “evil” quip. If transitions like this are historically rough, then shouldn’t we strive to make them smoother?
AI cannot take responsibility. It can perform tasks but companies very much want a person to be responsible for decisions. Change management has been an automated process for years that stops to wait for approval.
There is a nearly unlimited need for people in healthcare and the like. Someone just has to pay them.
people thought this way as well, we're in the transition period - but we're going to get a lot of people sprouting up entirely new industries on the backbone of ai
Like Henry Ford said: if he had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.
Or like Say's Law says: supply creates its own demand. So whether technology allows us to produce more stuff with the same amount of labor or reduces the labor needed to produce the same amount of stuff, demand for other things, along with the workers to produce them, will show up somewhere.
The reason it is so hard for people to see is that they only see the current supply and do not see the latent demand behind it. But as Ford alluded to, there is a reason we are not going to barber surgeons anymore: a dramatic rise in productivity that freed up labor in every sector to work in our modern healthcare system.
Okay, assuming you’re correct, I’m just confused at your mocking “evil” quip. If transitions like this are historically rough, then shouldn’t we strive to make them smoother?
yeah it's going to be rough next 5 years 100%
we're going to get a lot of people who are working jobs that don't make sense anymore with ai continue to get laid off
we're going to get a massive concentration of wealth as people realize they can operate with a fraction of their former employees
it's definitely going to be grim and if i knew for a certain where the new jobs would be i'd be investing in that right now rather than posting about it here
i think though we're going to see an explosion in the arts - you're not going to buy products locally anymore, it's easier with better selection to buy online - so piggly wigglies are not coming back
we've already seen a lot of concerts and sporting events go way upscale as the wealthy are now seeking those experiences, how burning man went from a bunch of hippies to now an MBA dominated group of high net worth people looking to relax and share their experience on instagram buy buying up $5k camping packages
i think this is going to start trickling down and it'll become pretty common for people to start valuing non-scalable experiences as they spend more time doing things like hot air balloon rides, going to art galleries, seeing local comics perform, etc etc
Sure, there will be some. But, thinking it will match the jobs created by automobiles is being extremely optimistic. Overall, that transition created more jobs than it displaced. I simply don’t think that’s going to happen with AI. As chez points out, quite a few of the jobs created here will immediately be taken by AI. Just listen to some of these ****ers like Altman speak, th
Stopping at the peasants is a mistake
The AI Revolution will basically be every working individual swimming against the current for as long as they can til they inevitably drown. The exponential advancement year over year will render damn near every non breaking bricks with other bricks job replaceable and damn near every company will be in a mad dash to replace their workers with a program, over and over and over and over til you’re left with the uber rich and the hunger games
It’s not like there’s a solution to this. Year over year layoffs will rise as investment in AI yields exponential progression. Workforce will diminish cuz even **** like gig workers will be replaced by whatever Waymo’s final form will be. What’ll be interesting will be when we reach the breaking point where consumer demand for literally anything plummets cuz Leon’s utopia has resulted in everyone being poor
Our vendors are telling us we can't even get pricing on servers anymore.
We would have to order and then whenever it ships whatever the price is then is what we pay.
You can't run a business like this.
What’ll be interesting will be when we reach the breaking point where consumer demand for literally anything plummets cuz Leon’s utopia has resulted in everyone being poor
Consumer spending is about 70% of GDP. So if AI actually replaced most workers and people had no income, consumer demand would collapse. But if demand collapses, businesses fail regardless of how efficient their AI is, so the demand for AI collapses as well.
So you think everyone will just sit around until they starve to death? (Not everyone of course. Zuckerberg et al. would still have their robots providing for their needs.) So why wouldn’t we just start our present economy back up instead of starving to death?
