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Got the credit. Thanks very much!

Hopefully can get things sorted soon as I do enjoy coin poker.

Did you get your withdrawal? same problem here

Same problem. Whats is going on??

We're planning a fix for logging and downloading hand histories soon, which might then change your question, and more clarification on HUDs with the new software soon. But at the moment until we do so, that's fine, it's still currently allowed.

Hey Coin Poker,

why are the withdrawals taking so long now? It has been 24 hours pending now, same as Laura.

All of the sudden it is taking forver. What is going on??

Edit, now I checked again, it has rejected and been refunded into my account. Why??

See to me the main problem is on this site you're either cooling somebody or they're coolering you. And most of you guys will say well what's the difference then at the end of it all it's still going to be the same thing the odds will be what they're supposed to be the winner will be who is supposed to be. And I agree the problem I'm saying is do you want to play poker like that? I mean do you want every big hand to be hey I'm going to win if I'm on the right side of this cooler or I'm going to lose if I'm on the wrong side of this cooler? I mean that's just not realistic for a randomly dealt game. See this is the problem I used to have with ignition poker it was the same thing and at the end of the day I looked and say hey my win rate is eight big blinds per 100 hands so people used to say well what are you complaining about. And I used to say I'm complaining about the fact that there's no way in a randomly dealt game that it would just be cooler after cooler like that. To me that's just not realistic when it comes to a poker game so I don't like to play it that way. Now I understand there's a lot of fish who play online and to keep them interested sites probably have to make the hands interesting so how do you do that yep create a lot of coolers. Fish love that stuff they love going all in they love being all in on draws so the idea is make that happen more and don't play longer. If you just consistently called a raise pre-flop and flop the pair less than 15% of the time the fish is probably going to quit he's going to be bored he's in his own house he'll just go do something else

Now it sayys it has been refunded back into my account. Why?

It says due to a temporary error.

No still showing as processing

No. Why would we put it in a bad beat for him? This comment is about coin poker this is a coin poker thread

Unfortunately, these are the tools that you have to deal with on this forum. Who I had to sharkscope his cute little screenname and to find out he won $129k and still grinds under $10 tournaments. Bravo!!! Bravo!!!

I think i can safely speak for the majority when i say. please head to the "poker is rigged" thread and also perhaps, as a wild idea, if you dislike CP so much just stop playing on it. Your rants are now borderline insane and nobody wants to see you continue to feel this way about playing on a site so just stop doing it. Youve made your opinion well known, nobody is going to come out and say what you are presumably looking for so let it go, go elsewhere, enjoy life rather then spend many hours a day ranting in here

Not a fan of the cashgame lobby layout

Why would I go to the poker is rigged thread? I am not claiming that it's rigged. If I was claiming that it's rigged I would be posting there. I don't believe they rig it I believe they're a different levels of random generator and theirs is at the bottom. Wouldn't this be the place to have a discussion about coin poker? I believe the coin poker thread would be the best place to talk about coin poker.

"im not claiming its rigged" lol. well why are you all over the "poker is rigged" thread saying things like this...Well there are a few sites that don't deal randomly yes. There are a few sites that are loaded with coolers yes.

Seriously dude give it a break, stop playing on CP and perhaps question whether you should be playing at all ahead of ranting to strangers on the internet about the injustice of it all that only exists in your head. If you have anything vaguely productive to offer CP on how to improve then history indicates they will take it into account but right now, you need to chill man.

Just because the site doesn't deal 100% randomly does not mean it's rigged. Rigged implies that they are specifically doing something to change the outcome of the game. Well that doesn't mean if they have crap software that just doesn't deal cards well they're not doing anything to change the outcome of the game they just have crap software. This is what I'm saying is the problem with some of the sites today ignition is one of them coin is one of them they have crappy random number generator software. I don't believe that anybody is sitting there watching games and making one person win or one person lose. I just think some sites have garbage software and they just don't care because it's a money thing and they still put on a game and people still play. It's like a live game if a place is going to charge $30 rate per hand and people are still going to show up then they're still going to charge $30 rake. If coin Park is going to put out crappy random number generator software and people are still going to play what is their incentive to change it? There's none they won't change it. If it cost more money to their bottom line they're not going to change it. Now if everybody starts to go away maybe they do something about it. But to make it clear I'm not saying the site is rigging games to make a particular outcome happen. I'm just saying and I talked to somebody at phenom poker and they told me there's different levels of random number generator certification. Now whether this is true or not I don't know, but that's what he told me and he told me they have the top tier of random certification. So obviously that would mean some sites have the bottom tear and I'm saying if that's true coin poker is probably at the bottom. Now what does that mean as far as in-game randomness goes? I'm not 100% sure but it obviously means something

I think it's also wrong on your part not to go into more detail... I still remember stories like: full tilt and lock poker!!! How much money did we lose??? Let's ignore the phrase: whether it's rigged or not!! .. whether it exists in certain bot rooms, or modified RNGs targeting a specific profile... to create more action or to make whales who lose 90k win, for example... there are more of them than you think... I can show you graphs that support these, no more theories but profit optimization... of course they want to fight multi-accounting and other scams so they can better pull the strings behind the curtains, well hidden from the hypocrisy created "you think it's all rigged" no, it's just directed at certain contexts...
whether it sends you Coin Poker or whether it's your reason that guides the response, you mustn't ridicule what you don't know, respect for everyone!!..
I've been proposing to Coin Poker since the site was launched without a decent beta test: "Other poker software has had a long beta test, this one was released in a rush." ​​Explain to me what the customer cares if you don't want to wait for your idea. entrepreneurial .. or asked to be able to download the played hands .. I was told that on the 13th it would be done through the lobby and that it could be downloaded up to a month .. we are on the 19th nothing .. is this transparency??? IF YOU DID SERIOUS INVESTIGATIONS INSTEAD OF MINIMIZING THE VOICE THAT ANNOYS YOU FOR WHATEVER REASON IT IS .. I think it is more constructive !!! .. I asked for something legitimate and was denied. In 10 days the month will pass . so the hands will not be able to download .. so the suggestions are listened to if they follow the needs of the poker room .. ?? We who are the paying customers do not have a say in the matter ?? all those glitches on the river or the impossibility of taking an action while playing a hand .. without any command the auto call worked .. the command did not come out .. answer: we have forwarded it to the technical department .. disappeared !! All the rooms that are not available, the hands in your device have incorrect mathematical graphs, not mathematically consistent... situations bordering on the impossible... instead of snubbing others with superficial attitudes... do you have any idea what the probability is that a deck of cards is shuffled in the same way and that they provide the same result?? Well, for many these figures are incalculable... and why do such unusual events happen quite often?? I personally stopped playing on coin poker because if they are not regulated and so non-transparent I don't play there... so you're right!! But denying that hypothetical problems exist is harmful... I appreciate Poker Stars for its seriousness and reliability... while other rooms that are rising to prominence will be the next Black Friday!! First rule: respect everyone!! Until proven otherwise.

but see that's the point people are just brainwashed into believing that nobody would do anything dishonest that owns a poker site because they make enough money. I say there's no such thing as enough money you get billionaires that still commit white collar crime for more money so the question is they didn't have enough money? See that's the whole point it's not about enough money it's about pure greed. If you look up the party poker situation where in the fast fold games the winning players will get less buttons overall and that was proven. But nobody questions it party poker claimed it was a glitch. A glitch that just gave the winning players less buttons? It's not even believable. Full tilt will they make it enough money? Obviously not cuz they stole $400 million dollars. I don't understand what after all the stuff we've been lied to over the last five or six years between wars, vaccines, pandemics, and everything else that's been in place that why would you guys believe anything anybody tells you. I mean at this point in my life I don't believe any of it except for my own eyes. I have played a lot of poker on almost all the major sites over the last 20 years and I know what I see. I'm telling you the major reason that I quit playing on ignition poker was I had a 12 big blind win rate and I still quit playing there because the amount of coolers they dealt was just not enjoyable to me. For some reason I play on coin poker every time I leave a session I'm aggravated. When I play on my other normal sites it's very laid back very low stress no aggravation and I just enjoy it. So that's why I stay there but the point is I'm saying I've been on coin poker for 3 weeks and I'm like I have been more aggravated with polka over the last 3 weeks then I can remember in the last 10 years. Seeing that's all I'm saying what aggravates me? It's the fact that I have to deal with monsters under the bed because they're dealing tons of coolers that I'm not seeing on the other sites. And if you like that kind of poker then obviously play a coin poker and play an ignition. I just don't like it. All I'm questioning here is how could it happen on a regular basis like that just at some of the sites? It has to be something with the way they're dealing the cards. It can't just be well yeah you get a lot of coolers on coin and ignition but not the other sites but it's got nothing to do with the way they're dealing cards. It has to have something to do with it because if it was completely 100% random you would see it on every site the same amount

I'll start by saying that I'm not a competent regular and I'm trying to learn, however: only this year, only in the all-in preflop situation... so when we get into the variance hand. These graphs are of a player with an abi of $15 mtt who holds between 8 evbb/100 and 14 ev bb/100 in a sample of 350k hands. These champions are MTT players... I'm not talking about random table changes, or completely random big bounties. Those can be defined by the frenzy and the number of ranges in play. I'm certain that the RNG is random.
But denying the existence or use of programs or algorithms that manage certain particular or unclear situations would be considered living outside the real world! Bot techniques, etc., exist, but which rooms use them? It's up to us to find them, report them, and isolate them.
I understand that you have "legitimate" collaborations or interests, but ridiculing others is rude and complicit with those who use these strategies. A "legal" poker room banned a player from keeping quiet if unclear situations were to arise, in exchange for leaving their account open to play! Forcing them to accept strange clauses!
even the story for which the account had been suspended was on the verge of legal action... but there are people who have no financial means and remain silent for various reasons!! He was banned from the chat because he was insulted and threatened... his name and home address registered on the site came out in the chats!!! He got angry and reacted in the chat. They blocked his account with 16k inside "a year of work in his country", suspended the chat privileges... he accepted to withdraw the money... do you know how many stories like this exist???

A Certified RNG Doesn't Guarantee a Fair Game: Why Community Vigilance is a Duty
Too often, when a player raises concerns about suspicious dynamics—such as constant "miracle" rivers or massive discrepancies between All-in EV and Actual Winnings—they are dismissed with a simple "it's just variance" or "the RNG is certified, so everything is fine."
It is crucial to understand that RNG certification is only one piece of the puzzle. On its own, it does not guarantee game integrity for three specific technical reasons:
1. The RNG is a Component, Not the Entire System
A Random Number Generator may be mathematically perfect, but the Lobby Software determines how and where those numbers are applied. The software can manage player segregation (pitting winning players against each other), table seating, or "retention filters" for new deposits. A fair RNG can still be embedded within a distribution system that is biased.
2. Action-Inducing and "Player Retention" Algorithms
Many unregulated (.com) rooms have a massive financial incentive to manipulate card distribution to create "Action Boards" (giant pots that generate more rake) or to protect recreational players (preventing them from losing their deposits too quickly). These equity "correctors" don't technically invalidate the RNG, but they alter the mathematical reality of poker to boost the room's profits.
3. The "Data Blackout" (Hand Histories)
When a poker room prevents players from downloading Hand Histories to their devices, it is deliberately stripping away the only tool for democratic oversight. Without raw data, the community cannot perform a statistical Peer Review. Any room that hides data is demanding "blind trust"—the same trust players gave to giants like Full Tilt or UltimateBet before their scandals (Superusers and Ponzi schemes) collapsed the market.
Conclusion: Monitoring is a Responsibility, Not a Complaint
Mocking those who analyze their graphs and spot systemic anomalies—especially over significant samples of All-in Preflop situations—is dangerous for everyone. If the history of online poker has taught us anything, it’s that fraud is not discovered by regulators, but by players analyzing databases.
Denying the possibility of manipulation leads us straight toward a new "Black Friday." Demanding transparency, being able to download hand histories, and analyzing statistical divergences is not "conspiracy thinking": it is the only way to ensure poker remains a game of skill and not a scripted video game.
We don't need "fanboys" for the rooms; we need critical observers. Math doesn't lie, but software can.
the answer to my question about the statistics of a shuffled deck that repeats the same configuration is 8x10 to the 67th power... well you understand that these coincidences that are thought to be possible become mathematically almost impossible!!

It happened to me that I didn't have the possibility to choose the action to make on the ft... it was in auto check... playing important hands post flop because if you go all in you surely lose even if you put them at 90%.. glitch on the river before you burst with the mono out... players in the hand without being visible... or players with visible cards but not in the hand... 4 all in aa aa kk qq for ten times in a session... but then these people who play very bad , i find out that they lose I'll give you an example 90k in 13k game abi 10... here we say 2 x 2 equals 4 not 5 or something else... if I put them at ninety on average I win 9 out of 10 not 1 out of 10 if it's a deep run or important spot... guys I don't know the math difference between star and coin but why is it totally distorted?? It is our duty to inform and protect ourselves.

Multi-million dollar company risks license and reputation to rig games slightly so you get coolered 10% more in the Hot $2.20

Guys you're clogging the thread for actual constructive responses

Risks license from who? I will guarantee you there isn't a single entity checking any random generator on any poker site anywhere unless the poker site wants to do it to provide an audit. Nobody is just walking in to any poker site and just randomly auditing any software. I'll be willing to guarantee it. Second of all if you look at most of these poker sites they don't even have a legitimate licenses. I mean you remember ultimate bet they got caught letting a guy cheat by seeing other players whole cards. If you don't lose your license for that I mean there's nothing you can lose your license for. You guys don't seem to understand that there is nobody checking these sites on a monthly basis. They get one review when they first start to make sure the software is actually functional and then for the most part that's it. There is nobody coming in after that to audit these things on a random basis to make sure everything is on the up and up

They make infinite money hand over fist for simply running poker games. Think about that for a second. Think about the risk/reward.