USA Goes to War Against Iran

Israel's aircraft can launch cruise missiles of up to 300km range. Its surface corvettes have missiles of up to 450km range. Its German Dolphin-class diesel-electric submarines can launch cruise missiles of up to 1,500km range through their torpedo tubes.

i'm sure a lot of it is genuinely accidental, but at best you could spin it to being indifferent towards whether or not there's journalists in the area

assuming no malice and if you remove a lot of palestinian "citizen journalists" then it's still pretty damning as of those killed in warfare last year, over half were killed by israel

for example, only 4 journalists were killed in ukraine last year, 9 in sudan - two other locations where there's considerably more fighting going on - maybe it's a product of the "no front lines" but at some point you gotta acknowledge that you're far more likely to be killed while covering israel despite that NOT A SINGLE ISRAELI JOURNALIST WAS KILLED BY ISRAEL LAST YEAR

they have killed almost 300 journalists the last 3 years. its not accidental. you see this bc it was a white guy from the UK but you didnt hear about the 2 journalists killed (with their families) in Lebanon the day before.

and meanwhile Israeli journalists have all served in their genocidal rape Army, are often posing with guns, and write articles about shooting Palestinian kids themselves.

This guy knew the exact place and time the bombs were going to be dropped. He was intentionally there to create a spectacle and misjudged how close he was.

When Israel announces when and where they are going to bomb do you think activist “journalists” should be able to veto the bombs dropping by acting as a human shield?

Of an Israeli activist did somthing like that they would be put in jail and likely fired. We know because it has happened.

i'm not commenting on that situation as i don't know who he is or the situation around it

but the data is pretty overwhelming, especially that not a single israeli journalist has been killed

i have no doubts that israelis are probably better at avoiding hot zones whereas westerners and others are more apt to "go report from the front lines" and that's part of it, but again, only 4 journalists were killed last year covering the war in ukraine

how is this possible? like, you couldnt spend 5 minutes to learn about the guy? you couldnt scroll his twitter feed? you couldnt ask grok or google ai to give you a synopsis?

I expected a response like this from you (you've highlighted this very thing in the past) but I still ask the question to see what others have to say

I haven't been in this subforum much in the past few years, not really since 10/7/23 attacks. Curious, I haven't seen Rafiki or Mets&Fins Fan post itt altho I'm not following too closely here

who cares what those guys say? I am sure they would say all the journalists killed with their families deserved it. I am sure they are absolutely ecstatic about murdering people in Iran. in fact if you read old rafki posts he was giddy over the prospect of a war in Iran. they are genocidal Jewish Supremacists.

you post on UP, a professed "leftist" forum. the barest minimum to be a leftist is to oppose Israel and Zionism.

I'd imagine that there would be some on Up who are definitely against Israel and Zionism but some of them may be a little protective in that department with what they post. But I don't think it's as ideologically aligned as that because I've been around some pretty hard right wingers (not the armchair insos) and almost all of them are vehemently and vocally against Israel and Zionism if you poke at them a bit. Stormfront has been a giant circle jerk of those particular individuals for decades.

Those posters no longer exist. They get banned. They basically just forced out someone who kept suggesting that pushing a trans rights position just might be a poor strategy from a political standpoint. The kool aid is strong there.

i do not care one iota for non print journalism

ugh, now i wish he were hit

Working for RT doesn’t mean he’s not a journalist. In fact RT intentionally hires reputable journalists that are critical of Western hegemony in order to discredit the US. They have no need to pay them to change their positions or take editorial discretion. If you knew anything about the subject you would know this, to use your common turn of phrase.

I know in the past you have defended Al Jazeera. Why do you view Al Jazeera positively, and not RT? I view them as basically the same thing, and most of the time pushing the exact same narrative.

i thought the same until i started getting to know melissa chan while in beijing

she was easily one of the best journalists in beijing, often times the only one to raise her hand and ask tough questions at press events

i usually felt like her reports were the highest quality of anything being output by any foreign correspondent out there - which surprised me because i went into it not taking her seriously simply because she was working for this brand new organization that was clearly created to glorify qatar and all its interests

when china began cracking down on foreign correspondents, she was the first one kicked out of the country and they shut down al jazeera's office long before they even bothered to look at anyone else because they were the ones doing the most thorough hard hitting journalism that beijing wanted out - they even had their version of andy rooney do a big send off celebrating the fact that they kicked that bish out of their country

i've heard their arabic language stuff and anything directly covering qatar or the middle east can get a bit more muddled as the conflict of interest is a bit more pronounced there, but everything of theres i've seen in english on global events that don't include the middle east has been on point

if anything, i'd cynically say that they do that specifically to ensure cover on their other stuff - but i was blown away by how great they were in their english language coverage of china and so were the rest of the foreign correspondents, i was not alone in my opinion

reminds me of when i first was transitioning from macau games to journalism and i had an interview with interfax, went in blind and got interviewed by some british guy who basically told me directly "look, this job is here if you want it, but it's going to suck the life out of you, you're going to have to put a pro russian spin on everything and nobody else in the community will take you seriously and it doesn't even pay well"

Pretty much every information outlet is more trustworthy than this administration.

Self-selected. Cuban heritage people in Florida probably hate the Cuban regime but the majority of people there don't.

Exhibit #25472 in the rickroll hall of things that never happened.

So those Marines should arrive late next week are we about 7-10 days of troops on the ground ?

Trump really screwed this one up ?

It's sad when presidents don't listen to the generals or experts

This will be his legacy and it's looking really bad

Probably? Try "definitely" and with the intensity of a thousand suns.

It seems likely that Israel's objectives for the Iran war are different than the U.S.'s current (and ever shifting) objectives. Israeli public opinion is much more pro-war than U.S. public opinion, which means political tolerance for a very protracted conflict aimed at permanent regime change will be much great in Israel than in the U.S. If we get to the midterms and the war (whether ongoing or not) is a political albatross for Trump and other Republicans, it will be very tempting for them to go all in on blaming Israel. They have taken more than a few tentative steps in this direction already.

Do you really think the Dems will really blame Israel ?

I was watching a segment Breaking Points did on Rachel Maddow blaming the countries that pushed the USA into Iran and no mention of Israel . I think the Midterms are toast for Trump its just a matter of how bad

No, and I didn't claim they would. They will blame the Trump administration. I said that Trump and other Republicans will blame Israel.