Is It Dumb to Bluff at Live 1–2?
Live 1–2
UTG Hero brings-in 5 with As Ks Td 4h (1k)
EP folds
MP folds
HJ folds
CO fish raises to 20 (1k)
BTN LAG–fish calls 20 (1k)
SB is dead
BB big fish calls 20 (1k)
Hero calls 20
Pot 80
Flop Js Ts 2h
BB checks
Hero checks
CO checks
BTN bets 50
BB calls 50
Hero calls 50
CO calls 50
Pot 280
Turn 9d
BB checks
Hero bets 210
CO folds
BTN calls 210
BB folds
Pot 700
River 6c
Hero?
12 Replies
Pretty poorly played around. You should’ve opened this hand and could have check raised the flop.
As played we just give up too many fold blockers and call unblockers. Can’t credibly rep KQ unless you’ve shown the ability to just call before with the nuts on turns with no redraws
Put in money the wrong way on every street(pf is OKish). Turn is pretty horrific if we get this result then don't follow thru HU on river vs a turn flat. You we're hoping someone would jam on you on the turn and you could just call it off with equity? I don't understand your thought process anywhere other than just doing random stuff
On the turn, I don’t like check-call or check-fold. So I bet.
But it’s a high-texture board (broadway) and super multi-way (hence why I didn’t check-raise the flop). I guess I should’ve just check-folded the turn to a pot-sized bet.
On the river I have nothing. And I want to push out sets and small straights. I guess I’m just a noob.
On the turn, I don’t like check-call or check-fold. So I bet.
But it’s a high-texture board (broadway) and super multi-way (hence why I didn’t check-raise the flop). I guess I should’ve just check-folded the turn to a pot-sized bet.
On the river I have nothing. And I want to push out sets and small straights. I guess I’m just a noob.
Range analysis is what drives our bluffs, not necessarily us having no showdown.
It’s ok to have give ups. This hand just has too many properties against it to make bluffing profitable or +EV.
it's not dumb to bluff at any stake as long as the story makes sense and your opponent has a fold button.
Here I think it's suicide to bluff in a 4wp on a straightening turn, however you got the best case scenario, only called by the flop bettor. it looks like he has set or 2pair. Your situation further improves by the river bricking. I think you have to follow thru and size appropriately if not jam.
In the future just x evaluate the turn, you may have odds to call or it looks like it was going to be checked thru here.
it's not dumb to bluff at any stake as long as the story makes sense and your opponent has a fold button.Here I think it's suicide to bluff in a 4wp on a straightening turn, however you got the best case scenario, only called by the flop bettor. it looks like he has set or 2pair. Your situation further improves by the river bricking. I think you have to follow thru and size
Yeah I'm realizing that bluffing the turn was a pretty big mistake with this board texture and this many players. I should've just check-folded to a pot-sized bet, maybe check-called a half-pot bet.
Yeah I'm realizing that bluffing the turn was a pretty big mistake with this board texture and this many players. I should've just check-folded to a pot-sized bet, maybe check-called a half-pot bet.
None the less you bet nearly pot into 3 players announcing you turned the nut straight, you get the pot HU announcing he has either top set of bottom straight. It's time to bluff river given the way the turn went. But yea, just don't bet turn
None the less you bet nearly pot into 3 players announcing you turned the nut straight, you get the pot HU announcing he has either top set of bottom straight. It's time to bluff river given the way the turn went. But yea, just don't bet turn
Yeah I shipped river. Y'all ready for the result?
I shoved river. He paused for a bit, then called with AKQ6. I guess he thought we were chopping.
Turn: it is better to use QQ as a bluff
The probem.is you block the hands you want bluff
River: you decided to take the shot on the turn, go for it on the river
Turn: it is better to use QQ as a bluff
The probem.is you block the hands you want bluff
River: you decided to take the shot on the turn, go for it on the river
I guess this is the problem with making mistakes early in the hand (turn). What started out as a $20 call OOP pre turned into a 200bb/$1,000 commitment to tell a consistent story in the end. Oops.
Tried to alter the scenario slightly in solver by removing SB from the hand. Interestingly, it likes betting turn—but only one-half or one-third pot. But on the river, it gives up against the BTN. I don't know why.
