Diamond in a Day - CET Total Rewards

they close this loophole a few years ago. It can't hurt to try but everyone reports it not working.

I had a friend tier match his hotel status to another hotel status and then to Wyndam diamond (wyndam didn't match his initial hotel status.) He then he ping pong backed and forth b/w Wyndham and Caesars to keep Caesars diamond for 3-4 years before they closed the loophole.

i did the opposite.
i earned caesars 'diamond plus' and matched to top tier (Diamond) at wyndham:
https://www.wyndhamhotels.com/wyndham-re...

You're supposed to get a free suite upgrade as Wyndham diamond but they always make the excuse there's no rooms available but 5 min b4 checking into hotel, i saw on their website suites were available. Whatever...

Also, if you book 3rd party to Wydham (ie: Booking.com), you get no points at Wyndham.
but 3rd party sites are cheaper than even the wydham diamond discount.

Hasn’t fully posted yet but I think I got it done.

At Ak-Chin, the best I saw open was $1 Triple Play 9/5 JoB, so $15 a deal at max coin. Lower denoms had worse paytables. Fine with it, but useful for anyone thinking about grinding the promo.

At Harrah’s Laughlin I found $0.25 Triple Play 9/5 JoB with Super Times Pay, which was $4.50 a deal, so quite a bit friendlier.

Quick question: how accurate/binding is the info you get at the rewards desk?

I had about 4k TC from VP during the 10x multiplier at Ak-Chin. I stopped by the desk to get a new card and they checked my account and said I was closer to 5k TC already, possibly from sports wagers settling that day (I bet sports full time along with some AP/poker, so a lot of my comps come from that).

Based on that I went back and played a bit more to cross 5k for the 10k daily bonus.

Support is now saying they only see 4,155 TC from VP, which triggered the 5k bonus instead of the 10k.

Do sportsbook TCs count toward the 5k daily bonus threshold, and what exactly are desk reps looking at when they quote those higher numbers?

Not a huge deal for me personally since I should already be Seven Stars locked once the remaining bonus TCs post around 3/31, but I’m curious for future promos and hoping someone else might avoid the same confusion or possible misinformation.

Don't know the answers to any of that. If I want to see my tc's I just put my card in a slot machine and it tells me.

I went to Ak-Chin, and there wasn't much vp there, and the stuff I found was awful. Like paying 6 on a boat. Doesn't matter much, I only made a couple boats in my session anyway in a fairly brutal arsewhippin. For my $1200 I made less than 500 tc. I'll reserve my vp play for Paris or Pho from now on. It's not like I want to stay at Ak-Chin anyway.

Yeah, I'd never believe anything an actual person tells you. Ask 3 of them and you'll likely get 3 different answers.

This
Last year I hit Diamond via a January 10X trip, June WSOP trip, and October trip.

This year they show me as Gold.

When I was in Vegas last week and asked them why I show Gold this year, three people stared at the screen and couldn’t explain why.

One saying “I’ll update it and text you when it’s done”. Five days later, not update.

Laughable

as far as I know sports betting doesn't count towards multipliers. and 80 percent of the people who work the promo booths barely know they're alive.

Harrahs Pompano running 10x TC multiplier 3/30-4/5,
https://www.caesars.com/harrahs-pompano-...
If anyone is coming to the Hard Rock in South Florida for the Poker Showdown series that starts on 4/8 (https://www.seminolehardrockpokeropen.co...), if you come in a few days early Harrahs Pompano is only about 30 minutes from the HR.

I’m sorry to hear man. tough to advance status when you’re running like death at VP/slots.

What were you playing? What was the paytable/rtp

Yeah, I honestly think it’s somewhat intentional.

The less precise the information and training staff have, the less they can effectively assist players trying to fully understand or optimize the system.

And when you factor in how top-heavy the RTP is on most of the options—and the fact that they already have an edge on ~99% of players—it’s just more money flowing their way regardless.

Confirmed. I brought this up to support—basically that their policies, terms, and staff guidance should be aligned. They thanked me for the feedback, but it didn’t seem like a priority.

A lot of players just stick to VP/slots where TC is straightforward. But for anyone mixing in sports, I’m sure there are people every multiplier who end up grinding an extra 1k–2k TC trying to hit the 5k bonus—potentially losing money based on inaccurate info from the desk, and not even qualifying for the bonus in the end.

From their perspective, it’s basically a freeroll—any extra play driven by confusion or misalignment is pure upside for them.

I was playing Bonus Poker. It's a good compromise between boring JOB and TDB, where I miss 50 hands in a row.

I can't remember the paytable, I just usually look at the full house pay, which was 6, so it was pretty bad. Didn't affect me much though because I only hit 2 or 3 boats total.

I play almost entirely the lowest variance forms of VP, either 9/6 JoB or 8/5 BP. And I've noticed that my results in these games converge on expectation fairly quickly and dependably if you exclude royal flushes.

If I look at my annual win/loss statements (which separate out hand-pays, i.e. royals), basically every year my RTP is 97%-98%. Like I'll have 100k in coin-in and 97.5k in coin-out, excluding hand pays. Whether I am positive or negative for the year is always dependent on whether I hit a royal that year, and royal flushes would take decades to converge on expectation.

what destination/casino are you finding 9/6 JoB in and what denomination? I know there’s the $25, $50, $100 1 play at Caesars Palace for 9/6 JoB

I can't imagine I'm getting anywhere near expectation the last few years. I started out hot, but I'm on a multi-year cold streak. My last royal was pre-covid, when the Series was still at Rio.

I can't imagine trying to keep track of coin-in/out, and CET doesn't provide it. For example, last weekend I gave the machine $1200 and only got 490 tc for it. I need 30x that to get Diamond, so I'd have to spend $36,000+. I'd love to be able to blame Caesars for that but it's just bad luck, pure and simple.

I only tried up there once, and if they still have 9/6, it's well-hidden. I couldn't find it. I was up there for a Circuit event, I would never fly up there just for tier credits. I can't see making up that pay difference enough to pay for a flight.

I played 9/6 5 dollar triple play a little over a year ago. So 75 a spin. Was a bit tough to find don't think it was on vpfree. Think in harrahs lake Tahoe high limit

Do you have to play all 50 lines on those machines? $25 minimum a spin at 1 coin or 5 coin?

5X promo last week in Vegas
Arrived 3/10, departed early 3/14

5,949 TCs earned (80% via VP, rest slots)
Wife 7,808 TCs

I feel like this time they did NOT apply the daily TC bonuses, like 125 if you hit 500, or 1,000 if you hit 1K, etc.

The 5X multipliers appeared yesterday 3/19:

I came in just under Diamond Plus at 21,247 TCs
Wife, came in over Diamond Plus at 27,040 TCs

Played a f ton of Ultimate X.
5 line TDB $0.05 ($2.50 spin)
10 line TDB $0.05 ($5.00 spin)

Several premium quads, etc. but two biggest were Royal Flush X4 and Quad Aces w/kicker X12.

Take advantage of those multipliers when able.

Very nice!

They are supposed to give you the daily bonuses. That's worth making a complaint about.

You get the daily bonuses but you don't get the 5x for the daily bonus part.

Moreover, VP at Harrah's Lake Tahoe returns 1 TC for $10 coin-through. At Caesars Palace it takes $25 to earn a TC.

There are great VP opportunities at Las Vegas, but not at Caesars properties, nor at most other Strip casinos.

ETA:

My understanding is that the best venues to earn tier credits are, in order, Harrah's Cherokee in North Carolina, Harrah's Lake Tahoe, and The Row in Reno. I have also heard good things about Harrah's Rincon, east of Carlsbad, in Southern California.

How do hotel comp offers at the strip properties, Harrah’s Lake Tahoe, and The Row in Reno scale relative to the TC earned?
It seems like at some destinations, VP play doesn’t always translate into free rooms.

I also wonder if playing low-variance, high-RTP VP has any impact on that.

Really? Carlsbad might be a shorter drive for me than Vegas.

Is The Row a casino? Never heard of it.

It has been getting harder to find on the Vegas strip. Cosmo got rid of my favorite 9/6 JoB machine about a year ago. You can play it at Cosmo at the 50c level, but you need to play at least 10 hands, so $25/spin.

You can still find 9/6 JoB at the $1 level in the high limit rooms at Venetian and Palazzo. I moved a lot more of my play there after Cosmo switched over to MGM Rewards. And I think you can find it at Wynn at the $5 level.

It's also still pretty widely available in Atlantic City.

I only know how it translates to Vegas rooms since that's just about the only casino area I go. It depends on the demand for rooms where you're trying to reserve. If you earn 2k tc in a day you'll generally get good discounts in Vegas. For the 490 I earned last weekend, it's iffy. I've wondered if slots gives you a better payback in comps, but I haven't spent the money to find out. I probably should give it a try considering how cold I've been at vp.