1 2 live turn spot with T9dd, did I miss value
1/2 live
Hero: $180
Villain: $270
Villain is directly on my left, so he has position on me postflop. He hadn’t played many hands yet, so I didn’t have much info on him, but overall he seemed on the tighter side.
Hero is in the CO with T♦9♦.
Preflop:
UTG opens to $10, Villain calls, Hero calls, BTN calls.
Flop ($33): T♣ 8♠ 6♥
UTG checks, Villain checks, Hero bets $15, BTN folds, Villain calls.
Pot: $63
Turn: 7♦
Villain checks, Hero checks.
Pot: $63
River: 2
Villain checks, Hero bets $40.
My thought process:
Flop felt like a clear bet with top pair + OESD, although maybe my sizing was too small.
Turn gives me the straight, but I checked back because I thought betting might make my hand look too strong / too face-up.
River looked like a brick, and after he checked again I went for value.
Main questions:
Is turn just a mandatory value bet here?
Is checking back turn to disguise my hand too passive, especially live at 1/2?
What sizing would you use on flop / turn / river?
4 Replies
One of the biggest leaks in low stakes is calling without proper odds. You were 90BB's deep heading into a multi-way pot with Ten-high. It's a fold-preflop. There are lots of situations where T9s is playable, but this isn't one of them because of your short stack.
Just look at what happened. You called a $10 raise and made a $38 profit. Maybe $78 if V called river (you didn't say if he did). So you made about 4 to 1 on your money and it was a pretty typical result. T9s isn't going to flop good often enough mutli-way for that to be profitable.
As played, yeah bet the turn. V's range has plenty of worse that will call.
Bet your straight on the turn. What are you doing???
I expected him to bet the river, so I didn’t want to scare him off on the turn. He did end up calling my river bet, but I agree I probably missed value by not betting the turn.
Fold Pre-flop
*Playing T9 from late position is not something you call with.*
Sometimes you can open with it, playing as a bluff, but not facing a bet and a call.
But here you are…
Flops fine, but turn has your thinking turned upside down - you hit your hand - you want them over-thinking, not you
Betting pot or even slightly more looks kinda bluffy - v is like would he really bet that big with a nine? I’d be ok with 40 on the turn, but bet something. If you told me you jammed, I think it works sometimes.
But please don’t level yourself into hitting the likely nuts and not betting it. There are exceptions like having AA on a A73 flop where you have to let villain catch-up - but most of the time it’s a mistake not to bet.
If they all fold, go to the next hand
Don’t see this as evidence you should do different, it happens sometimes.
Pot the turn
Jam the river
………..but fold pre-flop