2/5 fd vs aggrofish
2/5 ~ 9 handed
V1 ~ aggrofish, calls wide preflop, stabs often when checked to.
Seem him flat 97o in btn, 3way pot qq5ss8s7 fires 3 barrel
V1 just lost 1k w/kk vs aa preflop, just rebought for 1k.
Eff 730, V1covers us
v2 ~ somewhat tightish preflop(some limps), we caught him bluffing for 230stacks earlier in this session. This is 2nd session with him. He has rebought multiple shortstacks already. Eff 320
HH was like this
V2 limp in btn
H in sb opens 25
bb calls
V2 calls
Flop J92r xxx
Turn 9cc V2 bets 35, H x/c
Riv 6 V2 jams for like 170ish, H x/c w/Ak and is good.
V1 limps in EP(wide range)
V2 limps in btn(maybe pp? sc? or some random trash?)
H in sb w/K♥J♥ opens to 30
V1+V2 calls
H has opened a few times in blinds before they have both limp/folded
Pot 95
Flop 9♥6♥3♠
H checks
V1 bets 90
V2 tank call with 180~200 behind.
Hero ??? we have 700
We call? fold? raise?
Imho V2 is capped with 1pair max.
V1 range we are clueless.
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You could prob just jam here and expect a whole lot of extra FE vs V1 since it looks like you're trying to isolate V2's stack. Prob have a lot more FE vs V2 than you should as well, since bad players love to make hero folds after committing a huge portion of their stack.
might as well just jam. v1 will fold everything but sets and v2 is committed with a hand you have good eq against.
55% of the time you will improve, but there’s that chance that you brick, or don’t improve enough to win.
You don’t continuation bet very often?
You might have set a better price for your draw
When you check, I can see villain potting the flop, planning to take it down with a lot of hands. I know the description of v2, but I take cold calls seriously and us against two players is not where I want to be.
Still, you have a lot of leverage if you fire 700.
V1 probably doesn’t want to risk another stack after just rebuying. So, now it’s just the short stack, but I imagine you’ll still need to improve
In the back of my mind…..
It’s hard to have hand enough to call a raise and then connect with this flop, unless it’s a set. Then to bet or call 90 just doesn’t look weak.
PokerCruncher with flop
25% vs a set
36% vs 2pair
46% vs 1pair
This seems to indicate you hope they all fold
...V1 ~ aggrofish, calls wide preflop, stabs often when checked to.
Seem him flat 97o in btn, 3way pot qq5ss8s7 fires 3 barrel
V1 just lost 1k w/kk vs aa preflop, just rebought for 1k.
Eff 730, V1covers us.
Great Caesar's Ghost!
Why do you not have as much money as possible on the table? This guy is punting stacks, and HE has YOU covered?
WHY????????
I'd be topping off constantly with this guy at my table.
Maybe he is limping from EP with a wide range. But...how wide? As wide as he'd limp in LP? Can we do a tad better with ranging him? Surely there must be some range-narrowing we can do here?
You literally just told us he was somewhat tightish pre, whatever that means. Does it mean he's limping all PP's, SC's, and random trash?
You really need to work on your ranging of your opponents. Have you seen V1 limp from EP before? Yes? Did any of those hands get to showdown? Yes? Good. WTF did he have?
Have you seen V2 over-limp on the BTN? Yes? Same questions.
Even if you haven't seem them do this exact thing in this exact spot, have you seen anything else from them that may give you some clue about their range? Anything at all may help. You're basically telling us these guys were dealt two cards in a card game where everyone is dealt two cards.
Narrator: "it was that moment when doc wondered if he could get an AI chatbot to start all his posts with 'raise bigger pre'."
OMG! This is my shocked face. They both limp-called when you open to a size that wouldn't buy me half a tank of gas.
Tonight at 11, loose-passive rec-fish limp-call a small open from a player in the blinds. You won't believe the shocking video...
Not a reason to raise smaller. They limp with playable hands, and trash. When you raise and they have trash, they're more likely to fold. When you raise and they have a playable hand, they're more likely to call.
Even when you raise bigger. They're not limping with playable hands just to auto-fold when you raise to $40 from the SB.
Trust me. I wouldn't $hlt you on this.
I don't understand why you monkey c-bet with air when you completely whiff, but check when you actually have a hand that could bet for value or a high equity semi-bluff.
Don't get me wrong. I don't hate your check from OOP in a multi-way pot on a board that's wetter than my wife's undies when I come home from a four-day work trip. I hate your c-bet when you whiff and it should be obvious your opponent's range is entirely made up of hands that will never fold and hands that are itching to raise.
Still, while checking is okay, a c-bet would be too. Unless you were hoping to check-raise. I don't think you were, and I don't think you should have been, but if that's what you were going for, aight. Shine on, you crazy diamond.
V1 bets 90
V2 tank call with 180~200 behind.
Hero ??? we have 700
We call? fold? raise?
Imho V2 is capped with 1pair max.
V1 range we are clueless.
I mean...you're getting 3:1 direct pot odds, and you have two overs and a draw to the 2nd nuts. V1 has you covered and will hate 87.243% of all turn cards. V2 is capped and doesn't have enough behind to pay for a rub-n-tug at the local massage parlor. It's hard to mess this up.
No, you don't fold, getting 3:1 direct odds, amazing implied odds, and a V who will shut down on >80% of all turns.
Do you have any fold equity here? No. No you do not. So you do NOT raise.
Just call. But understand, we're not just calling praying to turn a flush. If the flush comes, we check. Let him hang himself. If the flush doesn't come, but he bets any turn card that doesn't pair the board, for any size that isn't HUGE, we're check-raising him.
Yes, we're check-raising him. You have the read that explains why. You've been here before. You take notice of what your opponents are doing, but then you get dealt cards and you start second-guessing yourself, and seeing things that aren't there.
If he bets HUGE on a turn brick, okay, fine. Then we can fold. Anything less than 1/2 pot, I'm check-raising him to the f**king moon.
Trust your read, Dango. Channel your inner gangster. Let the big dogs out, and let 'em eat.