USA Goes to War Against Iran
Time for a dedicated thread to the war.
How long will it last and what will be the probable outcome?
This is very lazy TDS thinking. “No planning”? Do you really think this? Not even a little bit?
The military has been planning for 40+ years. Hegseth and Trump didn’t appear to know or understand any of the risks. I realize this fits into the stereotypes people have about Trump and Hegseth going in to this. But sometimes you just honestly do meet a fat white guy from a rural area that really is just dumb and conservative. Trump not realizing the straight if Hormuz would be closed is just like that.
DUBAI, March 22 (Reuters) - Iran will completely shut the strategic Strait of Hormuz if U.S. *President Trump executes threats to target Iranian energy facilities, the country's Revolutionary Guards said in a statement on Sunday.
Idk if that's a threat or a WITHOUT THREAT.
Fwiw, Iran's biggest power plant is Bushehr Nuclear Power Plant.
If these people had a nuke they would use it. They believe this war is gonna bring their Messiah and they will conquer the world. People like you underestimated the destruction the Nazis could cause. Your passivity was quickly walked on. You don’t want to be a Chamberlin. You want to be a Churchill like Bibi and Trump.
Calm down, paintrapes.
It so unfair on Churchill. The idea he would have supported trump is just trump's ego
Well, the deal was a lot more than just “don’t complete the last step to build a bomb.” It had a lot of provisions that the IRGC mostly ignored. Not taking the last step towards a bomb seems to have been a decision Khameni made for his own religious convictions, more than because the deal made it impossible. And again, even assuming they didn’t build a bomb; between the revo
There's a big difference between 'anything' and 'everything'. Once we commit ourselves to 'no nukes, period,' we're committing ourselves to everything, ie, a full-scale, multi-year, regime-changing ground invasion, which could draw China into it.
This is very lazy TDS thinking. “No planning”? Do you really think this? Not even a little bit?
Do you have any idea how ****ing stupid you sound right now?
It is very, very obvious Trump has no clue what he's doing and either ignored his advisors and generals or is surrounded by a cacophony of morons who have no business being involved in the decision-making they are currently involved in
It literally does not matter what the planning and prep was, if any. We are closing in on a month into this war and it's an unmitigated disaster, in which the White House honestly looks like a propaganda machine and Trump seemingly contradicts himself on an hourly basis
Do you have any idea how soft he looks having to loosen up sanctions on RUSSIA because he's desperate to keep gas prices down? And the oil reserves across the globe are only going to last so long. Mere weeks is my understanding
If this goes on for another few weeks, then it is going to get very, very ugly...For the stock market, the global economy, farming, gas prices, stagflation. Iran is the one in control of the Strait not the other way around. Trump's posturing is meaningless and this bombing campaign has already come with an exorbitant and clearly unsustainable cost, and that doesn't include blowback, retaliation, and long-term effects in the aftermath of what hasn't even played out fully yet...
Even if this somehow ends now, do you think the rest of the world is going to forget what just happened? Burning bridges, literally and figuratively, insulting NATO partners on the very public and world stage, complicity in any culpability Israel truly bears, double tapping a school filled with little girls, and the bog standard American arrogance and callous indifference that came with all that?
I'm sure he predicted all this! Jesus ****ing Christ
Do you have any idea how ****ing stupid you sound right now?It is very, very obvious Trump has no clue what he's doing and either ignored his advisors and generals or is surrounded by a cacophony of morons who have no business being involved in the decision-making they are currently involved inIt literally does not matter what the planning and prep was, if any. We are closing i
The Iranians are very good at influencing far left liberals with their AI propaganda. You hit all of the talking points like a good little puppet.
Also, the Iranians have less than one day to reopen the strait.
Also, I’m sure the stock market will never rebound from this.
Also, how is this war anything of a disaster other than for the Iranian regime? Military experts seem to agree that the US and Israel are winning big. I’m sorry this isn’t moving along at a fast enough pace for you.
What if they don't? I suspect they won't. So what's Trump going to do take out their electrical grid? Doesn't seem like that's a great way to win over the Iranian people.
And there's a chance our generals won't follow his orders lest they get strung up at The Hague for war crimes as millions of Iranian civilians are starving to death.
What if they don't? I suspect they won't. So what's Trump going to do take out their electrical grid? Doesn't seem like that's a great way to win over the Iranian people.
And there's a chance our generals won't follow his orders lest they get strung up at The Hague for war crimes as millions of Iranian civilians are starving to death.
These are the Presidents words. I haven’t not yet been briefed on the specific plan.
Do you have any idea how ****ing stupid you sound right now?It is very, very obvious Trump has no clue what he's doing and either ignored his advisors and generals or is surrounded by a cacophony of morons who have no business being involved in the decision-making they are currently involved inIt literally does not matter what the planning and prep was, if any. We are closing i
good post..
mongo, is there anything about you or your life as a whole that isn’t disgracefully scummy and/or embarassing?
The Iranians are very good at influencing far left liberals with their AI propaganda. You hit all of the talking points like a good little puppet. Also, the Iranians have less than one day to reopen the strait.Also, I’m sure the stock market will never rebound from this.Also, how is this war anything of a disaster other than for the Iranian regime? Military experts seem to agre
Reminder: the clown who made this post that was quoted thinks it’s perfectly acceptable to get women blackout drunk or high on paint fumes so they cannot say no
Do you have any idea how ****ing stupid you sound right now?
It is very, very obvious Trump has no clue what he's doing and either ignored his advisors and generals or is surrounded by a cacophony of morons who have no business being involved in the decision-making they are currently involved in
Are you saying starting a war with Iran, then having to lift sanctions on Iran because you didn't plan for oil supply shock that everyone else knew would happen is some kinda mark of incompetence?
Iran has killed at least 32,000 citizens. Iran is using cluster bombs in attacks of Israel. Iran is targeting civilians. Iran is threatening to attack tourist destinations around the world. Iran treats its women horribly.
All I hear from you people is how bad the US and Israel are. Your hate is overriding your objectivity. Shame on you.
Here's what he said:
[QUOTE=Trump]"If the Strait of Hormuz is not fully and completely reopened for all international shipping within 48 hours, the United States will begin to obliterate Iran’s power plants, starting with their largest. The Iranian regime has been warned. Open it now or face the consequences!"[/QUOTE]
We don't need to be briefed on any specific plan. We know most of the Iranians' water supply is reliant on electricity for pumps along with sewage and then obviously refrigeration for food. And we also know that humans can survive about 3 days without water and 7 days without food.
So we're looking at millions and millions of Iranians dying within a week and tens of millions not very long after, if Trump follows through on what he said.
Would you support that?
Here's what he said:[/B]We don't need to be briefed on any specific plan. We know most of the Iranians' water supply is reliant on electricity for pumps along with sewage and then obviously refrigeration for food. And we also know that humans can survive about 3 days without water. So we're looking at millions and millions of Iranians dying within a week and tens of millions no
Of course he does. We're basically already doing that to Cuba and of course he supports that.
Iran has killed at least 32,000 citizens. Iran is using cluster bombs in attacks of Israel. Iran is targeting civilians. Iran is threatening to attack tourist destinations around the world. Iran treats its women horribly.
All I hear from you people is how bad the US and Israel are. Your hate is overriding your objectivity. Shame on you.
We need to cut the water and electrical to millions of people because the women are treated horribly is a strong take.
What if they don't? I suspect they won't. So what's Trump going to do take out their electrical grid? Doesn't seem like that's a great way to win over the Iranian people.
And there's a chance our generals won't follow his orders lest they get strung up at The Hague for war crimes as millions of Iranian civilians are starving to death.
The Zionists will make sure that no war-crime charges against our generals stick.
Why weren't the IDF generals charged with war crimes for Gaza?
The Zionists? Who are you the ghost of Henry Ford.
Why weren't the IDF generals charged with war crimes for Gaza?
Because they weren't stupid enough to make a blunt, pre-announced threat to cripple a country’s civilian electrical grid with a predictable outcome of millions of civilian deaths?
Do you have any idea how ****ing stupid you sound right now?It is very, very obvious Trump has no clue what he's doing and either ignored his advisors and generals or is surrounded by a cacophony of morons who have no business being involved in the decision-making they are currently involved inIt literally does not matter what the planning and prep was, if any. We are closing i
It's a good post but dude is only like 25% serious, the other 75% is just to rile everyone up, he doesn't deserve the effort.
Yes. No.
I'm referring to what is sometimes called Revisionist Zionism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism
Followers of Revisionist Zionism developed the Likud Party in Israel, which has dominated most governments since 1977. It advocates Israel's maintaining control of the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and takes a hard-line approach in the Arab–Israeli conflict.[335]
Because they weren't stupid enough to make a blunt, pre-announced threat to cripple a country’s civilian electrical grid with a predictable outcome of millions of civilian deaths?
I didn't know that a necessary pre-condition for being charged with a war crime is that you have to publicly announce your intention to commit an atrocity in advance of committing the act. You have a cite for that?
