[CoinPoker] - Official - Bringing the Game Back to Players
[CoinPoker] - Official - Bringing the Game Back to Players
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[CoinPoker] - Official - Bringing the Game Back to Players

Hello Everyone,
This is the Official Thread of CoinPoker (previous thread)

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05 July 2018 at 04:51 PM
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The more i mess with focus window on your turn it still needs a lot of work. The old software worked perfectly. I thought it was improved it may have been slightly, but still the same issues from the start where you still end up making decisions you intended for the other table.


by Chk10x m

I appreciate the additional details, but I still think the core issue remains unresolved.

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At the end of the day, what matters is not the size of the rewards pool, but the real effective cost for players β€” and whether that cost is actually lower, higher, or simply redistributed in a less predictable way.

appreciate your recent posts and concur w/ ~everything you've said

I understand online poker has been - perhaps justifiably - pushed in the GG direction of high gross rake and high rewards but could we try to NOT emulate the opaqueness (i.e. PVI), too?

Ultimately, effective rake is the only thing myself and many others care about. If I can measure it and conclude that what I'm paying is competitive w/ other sites, great. But given the planned rewards system is as convoluted as it is - three mechanisms, flat RB + Splash Pots + LB's - and we currently have no access to HH's, it feels like we're kind've being asked to just believe Coin when they tell us their effective rake is competitive w/ other sites if not the lowest out there (despite the rather large pre-RB rake hike that's being implemented)

I’m not suggesting the system is necessarily bad, but it is clearly more complex, less transparent, and harder to audit than before.

And I want to second this sentiment. After being Coin-curious since launch, this month was my first playing regularly on there. There's absolutely a world where rewards can be divied up b/w these mechanisms to do what Coin is telling us they do, I'm just hesitant to believe they ultimately will as someone whose been around the poker world as long as I have.


May i suggest - Unless im missing it (certainly not impossible)- the inbuilt HUD, whilst it shows vpip and so on, it doesnt show how many hands its based on, making it rather worthless. Its all good and well seeing someone is a 70%vpip and therefore a maniac in theory but it kinda matters whether thats over 10 hands or 10000 hands.


by jay94 m

Weird about the micros if that's the case, generally speaking isn't everything everywhere else below 100nl (50nl and lower) considered micros? I feel confident that it's the case and if so its deceptive language on CP part.

ime lobby filters on sites usually classify 50nl as low stakes. 20nl or 25nl I've seen go either way though I feel like it usually goes with micros.

I do think it's a bit deceptive for their own software to classify stakes up to 10nl/10plo and tournaments up to $8.88 as micro and not include all of those games as being rake free; however, the could be cleared up in the marketing by adding the word some as in 'some micro stakes games will be rake free' and then listing the stakes that won't have rake instead of insinuating that all micro stakes games will be rake free like the marketing on X does.


by Dazedandconfuzed m

Just a scam platform at this point. 3 days to get a reply, when I finally do vague with zero reason or violation given. DO NOT KEEP a balance on this site they can rob you at will and you have ZERO recourse. They don’t follow the rules of the gaming authorities that issues their licenses. Just a bunch of Eastern European or probably Indian scammers at this point.

@coin_poker I know it might seem like much but you going to pay me out the $200 in rakeback I had on my account before perma-banning me? No I didn't violate TOS in my game play or cheated in anyway when aquiring that rakeback so there is no reason to steal it.

I am sure that is a small amount for some players but still money that should be mine unless you guys are infact just thieves.


stuff like this is worrying to me if people keep getting banned and they dont provide a reason why


by FUrake m

stuff like this is worrying to me if people keep getting banned and they dont provide a reason why

I asked for clarification and they again replied vaguely with that "I violated TOS" but again no specific violation was listed.

They are also refusing to pay out the $200ish in rewards ready to be transfered before banning me saying my account balance is $0.

What a joke.


by Dazedandconfuzed m

@coin_poker I know it might seem like much but you going to pay me out the $200 in rakeback I had on my account before perma-banning me? No I didn't violate TOS in my game play or cheated in anyway when aquiring that rakeback so there is no reason to steal it. I am sure that is a small amount for some players but still money that should be mine unless you guys are infact just t

Sites dont reveal what you did for security purposes but you know exactly what you did. Ive seen so many "i got banned for no reason" posts only to be revealed later that they were cheating or breaking TOS. Ive never seen a truly innocent person get banned on any site.


by Love_the_game m

Sites dont reveal what you did for security purposes but you know exactly what you did. Ive seen so many "i got banned for no reason" posts only to be revealed later that they were cheating or breaking TOS. Ive never seen a truly innocent person get banned on any site.

That's what everyone says but I honestly don't know so atleast a category would be helpful.

I'm a novice, I don't study poker I play PLO5 and punt. Sometimes hit a good run, most of the times just lose. so I don't run any 3rd party software; I don't have more than 1 account, I play from the same 2 IP addresses all the time, I deposit and withdrawal to 1 wallet. So I understand you guys saying "You had to do something" but honestly wouldn't even know what to guess if it wasn't any of the major things how I could've just gotten perma banned with zero warning.


by TeddyD m

CP have just posted the following on "x"Over the past few weeks, we’ve been working on the next step for rewards on CoinPoker, with player input playing a key role in how we’ve built it. Your support on and off the tables has been overwhelming. Thank you for that.Today, we’re introducing CoinRewards, CoinPoker’s new rewards system.CoinRewards is designed with one clear goal in

I am a player driving action but I don't lose. Is that something that's still valuable to you guys?


by jay94 m

Weird about the micros if that's the case, generally speaking isn't everything everywhere else below 100nl (50nl and lower) considered micros? I feel confident that it's the case and if so its deceptive language on CP part.

50+ has never been considered the micros, generally 25 and under is. Micros, low stakes, mid stakes, highstakes


by Coin_poker m

I've passed on the feedback here to the team and got back some info I can share: - Only around 25% of the playerpool ever bought CHP to earn rakeback with. Recreational players did not tend to buy it. So the idea with now standardizing 15% across the entire playerpool automatically, and phasing out CHP, is that recs will now be rewarded more, which should in turn benefit pros a

β€œRake is now more in line with other major poker sites” - you mean GG Poker, the site who’s model you so desperately are trying to copy. This slip perfectly reveals your true intentions.

If you compare the winrates and the amount of winning players on GG vs other sites it is much much smaller.

Your whole β€œBringing the game back to the players β€œ ethos was about creating alternatives to sites like GG that fleece their players, not to become one of them.

You can try wrapping up your true intentions into disingenuous rhetoric and vague rewards system, but your actions reveal that all you care about is grabbing as much as you can by fleecing as much as possible.

You have the right to do whatever you please, I just want to push back when you pretend to be someone else.


I must be stupid because there is a lot of complaining about the rake change, but the rake for heads up games seems pretty reasonable. I think, unless I'm completely wrong, the standard was to do 5% or more uncapped up to $3 back in the day (on Stars and Full Tilt).

Here is CoinPoker's rake:

Stakes 2 Player Cap ($) 2 Player Cap (BB)
$0.01/$0.02 $0.06 3.00BB
$0.02/$0.05 $0.15 3.00BB
$0.05/$0.10 $0.30 3.00BB
$0.10/$0.25 $0.60 2.40BB
$0.25/$0.50 $1.20 2.40BB
$0.50/$1 $1.50 1.50BB
$1/$2 $1.80 0.90BB
$2/$5 $2.40 0.48BB
$5/$10 $3.00 0.30BB
$10/$20 $4.50 0.23BB
$25/$50 $6.00 0.12BB
$50/$100+ 0.50BB 0.50BB

I'm pretty sure it is raked at 5%.

This seems reasonable to me, of course it would be nice if it was lower though.


You screw over all the MTT players. From 33% rakeback and weekly leaderboards, now it's only 15% and nothing. And btw it's not even close to the lowest effective rake you were preaching all over social media. Even heavily regulated PokerStars offers much more and they have to pay insane extra taxes in many jurisdictions.


by Love_the_game m

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It’s all very good quoting terms and conditions but they market and openly tell you to break them - so how can they ever legitimately enforce any t+c’s ? What’s the customer supposed to say ? β€œSorry was that t+c one that I wasn’t to ignore ?”




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Can anyone find how much the splash fee is? I am assuming it's separate from the rake.


im seeing splash pots so does that mean the 100% rakeback is over? where im at its still 3/31


by camden123 m

Can anyone find how much the splash fee is? I am assuming it's separate from the rake.

3. Splash Pool
Splash Pots operate as a zero-sum system.
A small splash fee is collected from each eligible hand and added to this pool.
The splash fee is applied to each eligible hand.
100% of all splash fees are allocated to the Splash Pool.
CoinPoker does not take any portion of the splash fee.

This is from their website. it doesnt say how much is collected but its different from rake. I wonder what collected from each "eligible" hand is. Is it being collected every hand or what


I agree that's extremely vague and needs to be clarified.


coin poker rep - can you also confirm if there will be splash pots at the heads up tables?

currently it seems like 6max cash players get more rewards than hu cash players and mtt players


Here is another Splash Pot question that maybe needs clarity...

"Mega Splashes that can hit up to 1000 big blinds."

That is a huge amount of BB. Is this amount going to the winner of the hand or more appropriately for say 500+ big blind Splashes, is it being immediately split among the players dealt into the hand with no winning needed.


CoinPoker CoinRewards – Big flashy numbers or just taking players for a mug?

Just had a proper look at CoinPoker’s new CoinRewards system that launched on April 1. They’re heavily marketing the $1M weekly CoinRaces, the $500, 000 they claim to add weekly to Splash Pots, and 15% daily guaranteed rewards as some massive upgrade for players.
In my view, this feels pretty disingenuous and borderline insulting to players’ intelligence. Here’s why:
Previously, the system was straightforward β€” 33% flat rakeback on the rake you actually paid. Now they’ve dropped the guaranteed portion to just 15% daily (that’s an 18-point cut), while increasing rake caps in many stakes after the recent software update. So you’re paying more in base fees upfront, then getting significantly less guaranteed back.
The big marketing push focuses on the shiny total weekly pot ($1.5M+), the excitement of random Splash Pots, and the β€œplayer-friendly” narrative. They say the $500k is β€œadded” or β€œinfused” by CoinPoker on top of the existing system (unlocking bigger Mega Splashes), while Regular Splashes are funded by a small extra splash fee taken on eligible hands β€” on top of the normal (now higher) rake. But who’s to say they’re actually injecting the full $500k of new house money each week? It’s their claim, with no clear independent verification or transparency shown to players.
It’s also disingenuous how CoinPoker lately seems to want to lump any kind of promo they add into β€œrakeback” β€” they’re redefining the term arbitrarily. Ambassadors are helping with this, for example in Charlie Carrel’s YouTube video about the March 100% rakeback promo, where the second half was not actual rakeback and he makes fun of β€œrakeback” or giving the β€œrake back” when he knows full well what traditional rakeback is.
They make it genuinely hard to do a clear apples-to-apples comparison. The extra splash fee, the pure RNG nature of the drops (high variance), and the volume-weighted races leave most average and recreational players struggling to figure out the real net cost. In my view, the vein of their recent marketing has been to dazzle everyone with big numbers and ambassador hype, while burying the drop in guaranteed value and the extra fees. It treats people as if they’re too stupid to notice or question whether this is actually a worse deal for many players β€” and a better one for the site’s bottom line.
Sure, high-volume grinders who consistently hit races and splashes might claw some of it back through variance. But for the majority? It feels like a step back in simplicity, predictability, and actual player value.
Has anyone else run the numbers on their own volume since the launch? I’d be interested to hear real session data rather than the promo hype. Always best to track it yourself and decide.



2 simple questions, hopefully can get some good feedback on

1) Credit card deposits
How much are the fees, FX rates and does it show up as cash advacnce on the credit card statement?

2) I travel alot and just carry my tiny Old Chromebook around usually. Wasn't able to install the software.
What should I do? Download the app and play from the app?

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