[CoinPoker] - Official - Bringing the Game Back to Players

Well they do and they don’t (leaderboards as they are elsewhere on top of better rakeback) but no point in splitting hairs on that - it’s just all too messy (industry wide and that’s intentional across the board) - just think if they had -

1) Done a clean March promo 100% rakeback no attempt at misrepresentation

2) Got rid of CHP which they did (and CHP was a really bad mechanism from day one I think only 25% of players ever bought it so 75% were getting nothing - any pro active marketing department would of seen that and dumped it long long ago) and incorporated a decent and transparent xx% tiered rakeback system paid daily that would of “done the job” and new players might of stayed in higher %’s

Main thing for me is the “thinking” behind what they did - it’s 100% bad optics at every turn, it seems to be “if we do this they’re too dumb to notice” - that I don’t like and absolutely don’t think it should be rewarded - and their ambassadors did themselves no favours getting behind a lot of it - they put themselves squarely on one side of the fence and players should be mindful of that

(My understanding of the splash pots are they are funded simultaneously in 2 ways, small percentage per hand and topped up with 500k)

The one thing they did 100% correctly and apparently efficiently was using player feedback to improve the new software

That was the right way to do it, they seemed to take on board feedback quickly and react

Now just imagine the same mindset applied in marketing “Players are willing to improve the software experience (for free), could we utilise the current base better to drive sign ups ??”

Anyway time will tell

So for example if two players at a heads up table both have a 100bb stack. They get a splash pot of 100bb (60bb divided amongst the two players). They both go all in preflop and player A wins. Player A would then have a 240bb stack (his 100bb, the 100bb he won, and the 40bb section of the splash pot that had to be won, minus rake but ignore that for ease of round numbers), and both players would then have 30bb at that stake added to their cashier for manual claiming?

Or would it actually be 200bb, and then 40bb+70bb goes into your cashier for manual claiming?

Oh and when there was a “buzz” about Coin in March where was the Casino Marketing ?
I know many don’t like the product embedded in poker clients (me included and I use it!) but it’s actually not bad - they have addressed areas that others like GG haven’t

VIP reps if your at a decent level available on WA/Email - you won’t get that at GG etc (in the standalone casinos yes it’s normal enough but we’re comparing apples with apples here)

Reasonable weekly cashback schemes / freebies - again on GG it’ll be a $50 bonus with crazy wagering which is insulting to anyone playing at any scale

And they do (in my experience) as a site pay pretty quickly and frictionless - if they are seriously looking to scale they need to keep an eye on that - I’ve watched for 20+ years all that slide when operators get bigger and one of the very things that attracted customers goes to shit and they leave (it’s actually worse when it was good and goes to shit that if it was shit in the first place if you get my drift)

So all that said they have a decent casino product - but the marketing (as a whole not just March but in March it should of been pushed) is woeful

i was expecting the 15% flat RB to be added like 10 minutes ago, but didn't get anything...whats up w that? how are they paying this **** out?

rakeback times have been different for me, anywhere from 7-9am utc. Plus if you play past the cutoff you won't see that rakeback until the day after

New rake structure: The numbers don't lie, and they should worry your managers.

24 hours later, the poll results are out and already unambiguous. They paint a picture that CoinPoker's management should be losing sleep over.
0% of respondents think the new rake is acceptable. Not one person. Zero. Nada de nada. Niet. Que dalle. Nichts.
50% say the rake is too high and is hurting the games long term.
41% would rather move to a new site with a sustainable rake structure.
9% would go as far as staking a competitor to make it happen.

Let that last one sink in. Nearly 1 in 10 players is so frustrated they're willing to fund a rival platform. That's not customer dissatisfaction.
That's a community organizing against you.

The short-term trap:
Higher rake looks good on a quarterly report. But when it shrinks the player pool over 12 to 18 months, the long-term revenue curve collapses.
You can literally optimize yourself out of existence. The rake doesn't matter if there are no tables running.
Just as private equity firms are killing the businesses they acquire by squeezing their juice for a couple of months, your new rake structure will cap your growth.

Your affiliates and streamers will walk away:
Poker lives and dies by its promotional ecosystem. Affiliates, streamers, and content creators won't keep sending traffic to a platform where their audience complains constantly about being raked too hard.
Once that distribution pipeline dries up, acquiring new players becomes exponentially more expensive.

There are no captive audiences anymore:
Some platforms act like their players have nowhere else to go.
In crypto poker in 2026, that's a fantasy. The barrier to launching a new platform is lower than ever.
And look at that 41% who would move to another website? That's a community that has already mentally left. They're just waiting for the door to open.

You're burning your biggest asset:
CoinPoker had first mover advantage in the crypto poker space.
That loyalty capital was built over years. Every unpopular policy decision spends that capital. Once it's gone, you're just another site, except with a worse reputation.

You were on a great rise, with a great ethos:
Instead of squeezing 20 to 30% extra from your existing player base, you may have preferred increasing your traffic and positioning yourself as a market leader before someone else enters the international crypto poker space.

The players are ready. The market is ready. The technologies are ready... The market leader throne is yet to be claimed. CoinPoker isn't yet a double digit fraction of what GGPoker is, and yet is already giving up its edge....

All that's missing is a platform with the vision to put the community first and reap the rewards of being the undisputed home of crypto poker.
Right now, you're handing that opportunity to whoever is willing to read this thread and the poll.

Poker Traffic History of the Biggest Poker Sites, by primedope.com

Ok, i just got paid.

yesterday i played mostly 1/2 NLHE HU
I had some 500nl action also, about 30 hands or so. and some 100nl action too. Also about 30 or so hands. I recorded playing 1615 hands.

I used tracker, but it misses some hands, but total rake i have recorded is 655 usd. theres small amount of hands missing, so possible the rake i paid yesterday could be as high as 700,but prob not much higher than that.

My total rewards i got yesterday is 512 USD, works out to like 75% rb no?

Then i won some 4bb and 20bb in splash pots and mega splash pots, don't remember exact here and not sure how to calculate this in?

I guess this isn't so bad? but all this gimmick nonsense is kinda ridiculous. just be normal wtf.

is it confirmed how the leaderboard works?

for example if i place 1st in leaderboard or 65th in leaderboard am i getting the same % rb or different?

You took the words right out of my mouth - more on this later maybe …. we’ll see what happens (and I gave Coin first dibs but they passed)

“ Subject: A Structural Fix for the Online Casino/Poker Retention Problem

I’ll keep this short.

Every online casino/poker room is fighting the same war — identical products, unsustainable marketing spend, and players who leave the moment a better bonus appears somewhere else. Nobody has solved it structurally. They’ve just kept throwing money at it.

I’ve come up with a model that fixes the retention problem at its root — not through bigger bonuses or better design, but by fundamentally changing what a player’s losses mean to them. It turns the casino/poker room biggest liability into its most powerful marketing asset, collapses acquisition spend, and builds a player base that makes the business significantly more attractive to an acquirer than anything else on the market.

I’ve written it up as a proof of concept. It’s not a finished business plan — it’s a core principle, clearly laid out

If that sounds like something worth ten minutes of your time, I’d be happy to send it across.

If not, no problem at all — no obligation and no need to take it any further.”

yo who is this jackoff and wtf he keep babbling on about? ***** talkin to himself

^^

Just received a "promotional bonus" and i have no real idea why lol. Perhaps linked to previously held chp if i was to guess.

same, i got 275 promo balance now.

Think it might be CHP?

My friend had 14k chp and got 700+ Promo money
i had 5k and got 275

Email today:

"real money balance is always used first" eh...so i will effectively never get to withdraw the promo balance unless i go broke lol.

Don’t you guys love how we have to play through to get our CHP when we had to pay for it in the first place? Totally absurd. Waiting for the max exodus this site deserves.

LOL, I'm sure I've seen this **** before and it didn't go down to well.

I just tried sitting on a few high stakes tables to get all my balance on the tables, including the "promotional balance" money. When i left, the money went straight back into the promotional balance.

i played today alr like 2k+ hands. have no promo money left. no idea how it works tho, but prob just play it through.

How much rake in bb/100 are 6max players paying at like 100nl and 200nl?

Coin poker rep, you and your site are a disgrace to the poker community. You are as much use as a chocolate fire guard and coin poker is a Ponzi scheme. I’m out. **** you all.

There are some additional MTT rewards in the pipeline, it won't be just 15%. Will share some info asap.

All of the recent changes are not necessarily final. We will be reviewing everything in general again this month.

At the moment rewards are proportional to rake generated, so once a player finishes within the paid places, their effective rb % is the same regardless of rank.

Placement only determines whether you are paid, not the % you receive. The rb % itself varies by leaderboard based on prize pool and number of paid spots. This may be adjusted in the coming days.

Most of the liquidity pool was publicly removed 16 months ago, in Nov 2024, it was announced at the time to players by email, on socials and in post #855 here in this thread, that it would be discontinued and replaced with a new token, but as most players from feedback wanted to just phase it out entirely and have some kind of USDT rakeback instead, that's what we've implemented and it is now no longer needed. Market cap is a theoretical value, if there isn't liquidity i.e. buy orders in the order books any token can dip to zero.

It's now replaced with an equivalent value in promo dollars (P$) that have a playthrough requirement (or can be used for tournament entries) set up to be equal to the value of the CHP that players were holding. Most players wanted CHP to be discontinued and strongly disliked it, for years, and that was the plan from over a year ago, plus it was recommended to buy the minimum to pay rake with each week, then top up, example here.

When a player bought CHP under the old system they intended to use it to pay part of the rake with, that was its utility. There would be no other reason to buy it, wasn't an investment. It was a way to pay 33% less rake if holding it. Players tended to buy the minimum to cover a week's rake then top up as they went along - many posts about that ITT or on our Discord. So P$ or any kind of bonus funds with a play through requirement function in the same way, as a gradual release of value.