USA Goes to War Against Iran
Time for a dedicated thread to the war.
How long will it last and what will be the probable outcome?
NATO isn't a sovereign entity. If Putin launches a few missiles at Poland is Poland going to declare war on Russia? Are they going to send their jets or missiles into Russia? Are France or the UK going to strike a nuclear super power in retaliation? I don't think so.
i mean ya they would attack russia? that's literally the point it might be ww3 nukefest but thats on them. The Russian nuclear threat is also diminished. They haven't had a nuclear test in 40 years. Theres alot of valid theory's floating around that russia didn't maintain its nuclear weapon arsenal and its pretty much useless. There just no real scenario where russia would attack a nato country. They would capitulate way before that
its quite obv that Russia viewed Ukraine as a potential Israel on its border. and in fact Zelensky even bragged that Ukraine would become another Israel in the future. so Russia naturally did not want to turn out vassalized like Egypt, Jordan and, Saud, or worse destroyed like Iraq, Libya, and Syria. nor in an existential war like Iran.
were they correct? was there another option? I dunno. but we have seen the consequences of allowing a psychotic uber militarized Western backed ideologically driven enemy at one's borders.
its quite obv that Russia viewed Ukraine as a potential Israel on its border. and in fact Zelensky even bragged that Ukraine would become another Israel in the future. so Russia naturally did not want to turn out vassalized like Egypt, Jordan and, Saud, or worse destroyed like Iraq, Libya, and Syria. nor in an existential war like Iran.were they correct? was there another o
you’re ridiculous. ukraine had not entered into a single offensive action prior to the war.
right except the Western backed coup and mass murder of Russian speakers in the East.
i mean ya they would attack russia? that's literally the point it might be ww3 nukefest but thats on them.
I don't think the Europeans would escalate, if Putin didn't first. As I said mostly tit for tat, not anything like "one more time and we're bringing the full force and might of the West to the Kremlin."
The Russian nuclear threat is also diminished. They haven't had a nuclear test in 40 years. Theres alot of valid theory's floating around that russia didn't maintain its nuclear weapon arsenal and its pretty much useless. There just no real scenario where russia would attack a nato country. They would capitulate way before that
Yeah. It sounds like a lot of Putin's grift may have come from diverted military funds.
Even if I grant you those things, which I don’t, that’s not at all offensive attacks. Does that mean when Russia and China suppresses their own ethnic or religious minorities, you consider those offensive? And Iran, Syria, Turkey, etc?
Just kidding I don’t expect consistency from you.
Even if I grant you those things, which I don’t, that’s not at all offensive attacks. Does that mean when Russia and China suppresses their own ethnic or religious minorities, you consider those offensive? And Iran, Syria, Turkey, etc?
Just kidding I don’t expect consistency from you.
If Victor would just come clean and openly admit he hates Jews, at least he'd be showing transparency.
The left wing media is so negative on the war that they are making the Iranians believe they are winning.
Good job helping to prolong the war.
It doesn't look like a good chunk of his base is buying it anymore, either.
Indeed it will be our fault when trump's mess can't be portrayed as glorious victory anymore
The one thing Trump has done exceptionally well is creating the most likely scenario of defeat possible. An actual stated goal was regime change, and regardless of the enormous commitment of resources and military, completing said goal would likely make things collectively worse. And blowing up random **** isn't going to accomplish any of the other ones either.
The one thing Trump has done exceptionally well is creating the most likely scenario of defeat possible. An actual stated goal was regime change, and regardless of the enormous commitment of resources and military, completing said goal would likely make things collectively worse. And blowing up random **** isn't going to accomplish any of the other ones either.
Other ones like getting the enriched uranium, getting guarantees to stop their enrichment program, stop supporting proxies and keep the Strait open? And he had to lift the tariffs on China and the sanctions on Russia to boot.
I'm thinking his supporters might support Vance playing the Article 25 card so they can save face and say he just lost his mind.
In the middle of this, hegseth is purging some of the top brass. Wonder why?
