USA Goes to War Against Iran
Time for a dedicated thread to the war.
How long will it last and what will be the probable outcome?
The left wing media is so negative on the war that they are making the Iranians believe they are winning.
Good job helping to prolong the war.
Do you really think the Iranian government is making war decisions based on news reporting by left wing media?
Also, "the media should report in whatever way I believe is helpful to an offensive war effort" is a dark, dark take.
The idea that the mullahs were gonna pack it up and surrender until they found motivation in a rachel maddow segment is exactly the kind of cause and effect stupidity I would expect from that rapist
US intelligence has assessed that roughly half of Iran’s ballistic missile launchers are still intact despite over a month of US and Israeli strikes against military targets in the country, CNN has reported, citing three sources familiar with the intelligence.
Some of the launchers may not be accessible at present, such as those buried underground by strikes but not destroyed, according to the report. Still, Iran is “very much poised to wreak absolute havoc throughout the entire region”, one source said.
US intelligence assessments have also indicated that Iran still has thousands of one-way attack drones in its arsenal and “a large percentage” of its coastal defence cruise missiles, which play a key role in Tehran’s threats to shipping in the strait of Hormuz.
The findings are at odds with Donald Trump’s claims earlier this week that Iran’s ability to launch missile and drone attacks have been “dramatically curtailed” and that the war was “nearing completion”.
Trump lied?’!
Impossible
Apparently, WTI is catching up with the expected trend (it was behaving in a slightly more benign way compared to Brent but not anymore).
I'm not. Answer the question vic, why do you constantly stan for Putin and falsely try to make out Ukraine are the bad guys here, when that's completely untrue? It's really disgusting.
anyone aligned with the USA is bad. especially if they are aspiring to be the next Israel, as Zelensky has stated.
The current campaign is a complete ****ing disaster surprising absolutely no one but its only going to get worse
It's going to be really dangerous now.
The combination of trump being able to see the endline of his presidency combined with this **** up that he may not have any good (for him) way out of is as scary as it gets. What netanyahu has inflicted to try to avoid his end may just be the start of what trump can do.
Best hope may be the vance camp deciding to get rid of him but that's not exactly a great hope.
Do you really think the Iranian government is making war decisions based on news reporting by left wing media?
Also, "the media should report in whatever way I believe is helpful to an offensive war effort" is a dark, dark take.
I actually think we underestimate how much 3rd world govts rely on "friendly" media to shape their perspectives; which often doesn't map reality very well. And they make poor decisions based off of this. This is actually a common problem with authoritarian states and dictatorships. They surround themselves with yes men, including propaganda/media, which just tells them what they want to hear.
The Iranian govt and their proxies probably aren't relying directly on CNN, but they are relying on their own propaganda/media, which in turn cherrypicks our media when it reports something which supports their worldview (normally narratives supporting how weak and decadent the Western world is). And it does seem to be shaping their decision making, normally causing them to underestimate Israel and US resolve. Same thing for Putin's misjudgments leading to his decision to invade Ukraine.
If anything, I would guess Iran actually was paying more attention to the woke right social media (Tucker and his orbit*), who are extremely antagonistic toward Israel and supportive of Iran/Russia, and overestimating how much influence they have in the real world, especially on Trump.
*If you follow the money, it actually seems it is more than this, and the Tucker woke right is actually being payed by Turkey/Qatar/Iran/Russia aligned interests. But the problem is the same. the Iranian govt has over-estimated the woke rights ability to shape US public opinion and control Trump.
While there is endless speculation whether there will be a US ground invasion, the narrative is completely missing there is an actual invasion of Iran going on right now. Thousands of Shiite militiamen from around the region, especially Iraq, are flooding into the country at the IRGC's behest to help subjugate and murder the Iranian people on behalf of the regime.
It already was to an extent, but the IRGC is quickly turning Iran into even more of an Apartheid state, where IRGC members and their militia thugs (increasingly not even Iranian) brutally subjugate everyone else and hoard as many resources for themselves as possible.
US intelligence has assessed that roughly half of Iran’s ballistic missile launchers are still intact despite over a month of US and Israeli strikes against military targets in the country, CNN has reported, citing three sources familiar with the intelligence.Some of the launchers may not be accessible at present, such as those buried underground by strikes but not destroyed, a
The best part of this quote is how much it confirms just how clueless Dunyain and Elway really are.
While there is endless speculation whether there will be a US ground invasion, the narrative is completely missing there is an actual invasion of Iran going on right now. Thousands of Shiite militiamen from around the region, especially Iraq, are flooding into the country at the IRGC's behest to help subjugate and murder the Iranian people on behalf of the regime. It already
Wonder if anyone could've seen any of this coming. Hmmmmmmm.....
I hope we can all realize that "you have to let bad guys get their way or they will punish innocent 3rd parties" is a game theory strategy that is extremely easy to exploit.
Iranian supported militias have been doing a tremendous amount of damage throughout the whole region since 1979 (eg. Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Gaza); subjugating and displacing millions. Them increasing their presence in Iran itself isn't much a deviation from what has already been going on.
anyone aligned with the USA is bad. especially if they are aspiring to be the next Israel, as Zelensky has stated.
I can understand why you say the 1st thing, but the 2nd thing is pure nonsense
Zelenskyy said that because Russia is trying to kill their people and take their land. Of course he wants to have a strong defensive apparatus so this bullshit doesn't happen again
You make it sound like he wants to commit war crimes and violate international law and is a clone of Netanyahu or something when he very clearly is not
While there is endless speculation whether there will be a US ground invasion, the narrative is completely missing there is an actual invasion of Iran going on right now. Thousands of Shiite militiamen from around the region, especially Iraq, are flooding into the country at the IRGC's behest to help subjugate and murder the Iranian people on behalf of the regime. It already
So, are things worse or better in the middle east since we started bombing Iran?
It's going to be really dangerous now.The combination of trump being able to see the endline of his presidency combined with this **** up that he may not have any good (for him) way out of is as scary as it gets. What netanyahu has inflicted to try to avoid his end may just be the start of what trump can do.
Nah. This is America you're talking about. We don't do "hope" well.
The survey stated that USA civilians account for an estimated 393 million (about 46 percent) of the worldwide total of civilian held
If.... the protests will not be of the peaceful variety, methinks.
Do you really think the Iranian government is making war decisions based on news reporting by left wing media?
Also, "the media should report in whatever way I believe is helpful to an offensive war effort" is a dark, dark take.
The Supreme Leader was taken out within 24hrs of the start of the war. Operational Intelligence isn’t one of Iran’s advantages in this conflict, despite the US kneecapping itself with recent personnel changes. It doesn’t seem farfetched that some of their “intelligence” is simply monitoring social media and news reports.
The media should report honestly, which sadly is increasingly rare. A lot of left leaning news sources have been nearing Fox News level when it comes to their reporting on the ME.
Although, I doubt this is having much of an effect on Iran’s willingness to surrender.
