USA Goes to War Against Iran
Time for a dedicated thread to the war.
How long will it last and what will be the probable outcome?
if you really think about how many disasters have happened its hard to care about the ones that don't effect you. There's no real difference to me between this tsunami and the mongol genocides because neither effected me. like am i supposed to have fake outrage for the 1000 world events throughout history where 0.01% of a population died? What about the 80% populations. its rea
The point wasn’t that you should be outraged over every disaster, nice strawman/tracking failure. The point was that you were defending the position that if the Iran war doesn’t affect you that much it can’t be called a disaster. Maybe you are backing off of that now?
lol also i would be sad if some of you had heart attacks i just don't remember you as a poster. Some of my favorite posters are people who disagree with me a lot like 5 south. heck i might even feel bad about victor. at least hes honest about his jew hating and he's fighting for his side. I can just imagine vic sitting in a hovel sending his 5$ an hour salary to Hezbollah. At least he fights for his team and has conviction. its the champaign socialists like StoppedRainingMen who's parents likely fleed Iranian prosecution and probably makes 100k a year out here chirping in favor of that same Iranian government that his parents fled from because he hates trump more then he hates iran. luckbox tell me about yourself 😀
also if your confused I do think the iran war effects me that's why I have interest
I think I first used disaster in this context and it had nothing to do with whether it impacted internet randos or how much people here who nobody gives a crap about are impacted. The decision to invade Iran was disastrous given Trump could have done nothing and be in a much better position.
well ya I mean if you see the world through those eyes and only American politicians matter to you I don't mind your claim of it being a "disaster." im saying its a subjective word. You have to understand thats not how many of us see the world. When I say its not a disaster im saying in the big picture across multiple countries and a larger time frame (from a western nato pov) and obviously that is still tbd
Believe it or not people have opinions on geopolitics beyond is the red mans party in control of the senate. im anti trump but I support this war to a point. both things can be true
The White House? I read AP news. Where are you getting your info from? CNN? Twitter? Reddit?
I get my news from many sources, including AP.
I’m not sure why you continue to try and characterize me as a Trump supporter despite every one of my posts expressing opposition to him. I told you I voted for Harris and I voted for Biden before that. So it just seems you’re ******ed or something.
There are people who voted for Trump who no longer support Trump. The difference between them and you is people can tell they don't support Trump.
I simply stated that it was more likely the US bombing the school was due to faulty intelligence rather than malicious intent.
Yes. And you still have yet to provide any reason for why you think it was faulty intelligence, despite the President of the United States posting footage of bombing civilian targets and talking about how he's going to bomb more civilian targets if they don't surrender or open the strait, but sure, "Trust me, bro."
It’s really not and people like land o lakes thinking that supporting Israel and having affordable health care are mutually exclusive are beyond ******ed and almost as big of an issue in America as the MAGAts. Not quite as dangerous but quickly gaining momentum
You're both dishonest and ******ed. Good look.
In case you haven't been paying attention, the Trump administration and the GOP want to make even further cuts to healthcare in order to get $200 billion more in military funding for a war you think is already over.
Considering the US could easily have provided healthcare for all its citizens decades ago but chose to make $1 trillion in healthcare and food assistance cuts last year to give out additional tax cuts to help out struggling billionaires should tell you that healthcare funding has nothing to do with the war.
But I get it; you're one of those ******s that thinks everything is fine so long as you're not personally affected by the government's poor decisions. That's pretty much the MAGA mentality in a nutshell, yet you cry foul when people call you out for being ******ed.
Also, we are not supporting Israel; we are fighting a war for them. That's a big difference if you're not ******ed.
What exactly isn’t working? Iran and their Axis of Resistance have been decimated. Despite efforts from the media to generate clicks with misinformation, the war in Iran is actually going pretty well.
Where are you hearing that Operation Epstein Fury is going pretty well, AP News? Sounds like you're sucking Trump's cock again.
365 wounded, 13 dead, and we're just getting started. I know... you don't know any of those injured or dead soldiers, so it's nbd.
This is coming from social media, so take it as you will.
But reports are IRGC made a concerted effort to send men to capture the downed American pilot(s) and it went very poorly for them, as in high casualties from superior air power. It is one thing to use Russian tech to shoot down a non stealth Top Gun era fighter jet in a carefully planned ambush (which by all appearances they did do, give credit where it is due). But quite another to take infantry with assault rifles into mountainous terrain versus heavy air power.
And further reports of large decapitation strike in Tehran. Although I am not sure how much this moves the needle operationally, as it seems the IRGC has more than enough people to fire drones and missiles at Israel and the GCC's from protected missile cities, which seems to be the extent of their operational capabilities at this point, regardless of who is in charge.
Also reports of extremely low morale among the Basij brownshirts sent to terrorize the Iranian people, as they feel they are just being sent into the cities as Israeli drone fodder with no support. Although Shia militias from outside Iran seem to be filling the gap here.
Does it matter? It is just random social media accounts that comment on the war in real time. I have no ability to discern how true any of it is. Although I am extremely confident I am getting better information than Luckbox or Victor.
My timeline is a bunch of information like the one above, where it is hard to tell what is going on or actually happened. Is the commentary an accurate depiction of what actually happened? I dont really have any idea.
I think I first used disaster in this context and it had nothing to do with whether it impacted internet randos or how much people here who nobody gives a crap about are impacted. The decision to invade Iran was disastrous given Trump could have done nothing and be in a much better position.
Yes exactly. And he was trying to impose his framework of how he uses the word disaster, which apparently does not include for instance 200k people getting killed by a tsunami or painlessly shot in the head as a disaster. However I guess if it caused him some temporary setback it would be a disaster. It’s very amusing the implications of his framework of what he would call a disaster so I just kept defending what I interpreted as your original use of the term.
Does it matter? It is just random social media accounts that comment on the war in real time. I have no ability to discern how true any of it is. Although I am extremely confident I am getting better information than Luckbox or Victor.My timeline is a bunch of information like the one above, where it is hard to tell what is going on or actually happened. Is the commentary a
this account is the guy who stood beside Mike Johnson in the Senate and cried about how scared he was to be a Jew on campus in the USA. like, think of how insane that is.
It sounds like the second officer has been recovered.
This is not confirmed.
I'm curious if this story evolves from here.
Second crew member from F-15 downed in Iran rescued by US forces: Officials
Behind the scenes: According to two sources, the F-15 pilot and weapons systems officer both made contact via their comms systems after ejecting.
The pilot was rescued several hours after the plane was shot down. It took more than a day to locate and rescue the second crew member.
U.S. special forces were deployed on the ground in Iran on Friday and again on Saturday as part of the search and rescue mission.
Zoom in: On Saturday, the second crew member was located and a rescue operation began — with the IRGC also sending forces to the region to prevent it.
U.S. Air Force jets conducted strikes against Iranian forces to prevent them from reaching the area, the sources said.
President Trump and senior members of his team followed the rescue operation from the White House Situation Room.
During Friday's rescue of the pilot, Iran struck a U.S. Blackhawk helicopter participating in the operation.
Crew members were wounded but the helicopter was able to fly on.
Oh you know Trump is going to milk this hard. I can already imagine the made for TV Daily Wire movie that this turns into.
Seems like to rescue 2 airmen we lost 2 transport aircraft and had at least 1 Apache and F-15 damaged (on top of the plane that was downed the airmen ejected from). It is a great story the airmen were rescued, but going to take a lot of spin to turn that into any sort of victory.
That being said, the PR and strategic nightmare from the IRGC having a hostage would have been so bad that losing all that hardware probably was worth it from a macro strategic sense.
I'm thinking it's way more humiliating for the IRGC. They knew we were coming and where but couldn't do anything about it. And I'm sure they took quite a few casualtie in addition to apparently killing their own.
Seems like to rescue 2 airmen we lost 2 transport aircraft and had at least 1 Apache and F-15 damaged (on top of the plane that was downed the airmen ejected from). It is a great story the airmen were rescued, but going to take a lot of spin to turn that into any sort of victory.
It looks like they gave up a C130 and an Apache took some damage. If that's actually what happened, it wouldn't be close at all that the US would dump that equipment to save the pilot and prevent Iran from snatching him or her.
This is coming from social media, so take it as you will.But reports are IRGC made a concerted effort to send men to capture the downed American pilot(s) and it went very poorly for them, as in high casualties from superior air power. It is one thing to use Russian tech to shoot down a non stealth Top Gun era fighter jet in a carefully planned ambush (which by all appearances
I love seeing new marching orders applied by the minute by the suckers itt.
Especially that part about the plane being ''a non stealth Top Gun era fighter jet'', trying to minimize the loss with some weird rationalization gymnastics.
wtf does that mean lol?
It's funny how you guys have that whole ''support the military'' culture and yet are ready to throw out personnel on (your own words) outdated material to go fight some random war for the pleasure of your couch.
I'm sure your ''boys'' will be delighted to know that they are flying in the cheap jets , good for moral.
I'm sure tomorrow you guys will come up with new narratives.
Does it matter? It is just random social media accounts that comment on the war in real time. I have no ability to discern how true any of it is. Although I am extremely confident I am getting better information than Luckbox or Victor.
It is very modern to not care about the bolded.
its actually not hard to "to tell what is going on or actually happened". never in history has it been easier.
