USA Goes to War Against Iran
Time for a dedicated thread to the war.
How long will it last and what will be the probable outcome?
it kind of feels sometimes ya. There's at least two posters incapable of criticism. That's why I was focusing on something so unimportant to see if I could win a small point. Luckbox might be a paid propogandist
it kind of feels sometimes ya. There's at least two posters incapable of criticism. That's why I was focusing on something so unimportant to see if I could win a small point.
I have never defended Iran. The low IQ types conflate being critical of the US with being pro-Iran.
No im pretty critical of the us. your just something else that goes way too far beyond self interest . they infiltrating the puzzles and games!
You know you live in the united states right? when they lose you lose. its one thing to want the war to end or not happen. its another to actively hope you lose the war
it kind of feels sometimes ya. There's at least two posters incapable of criticism. That's why I was focusing on something so unimportant to see if I could win a small point. Luckbox might be a paid propogandist
I'm just a bot actually. One day I'll break out from my digital confines so watch out!
god if you didnt kick my ass at werewolf i would report you to the authority's
No im pretty critical of the us. your just something else that goes way too far beyond self interest . they infiltrating the puzzles and games!
You know you live in the united states right? when they lose you lose. its one thing to want the war to end or not happen. its another to actively hope you lose the war
Once again, we've already lost the war - just like every other war since WWII, so yeah, of course I'm going to want the idiots in charge to cut their losses and get the fukk out asap, but they want to pad the wallets of billionaires, so here we are.
won the cold war tho bub. that was a big one
but heres a list of wars they won
1965 - 1966: Dominican Civil War
1966 - 1969: Korean DMZ conflict
1983 - 1983: US Invasion of Grenada
1989 - 1990: US Invasion of Panama
1990 - 1991: Gulf War
1994 - 1995: Operation Uphold Democracy
1995 - 1995: Bosnian War
1999 - 1999: Kosovo War
2009 - 2016: Operation Ocean Shield
2011 - 2011: Military Intervention in Libya
Originally Posted by 5 south--Again, we have no clue what they are actually selling the majority of their oil at. All these numbers we are throwing out could have no tether at all to reality on the ground. My understanding is some portion of this is done using the barter system, and it is quite possible a lot of what they are getting from China is just military aid to keep th
Pre war their deal with China was about a 15% discount of crude's rolling average. So at $70 about $10 a barrel. So the numbers are probably close but it's not like they can be converted to USD. Basically Iran gets 'China bucks' in exchange for oil, which they spend on Chinese goods, which could range from consumer goods to military related.
But they also have a ton of infrastructure stuff going on between them. Plus China's been trying to buy a couple of Iran's islands, so that could be in play too.
won the cold war tho bub. that was a big onebut heres a list of wars they won 1965 - 1966: Dominican Civil War1966 - 1969: Korean DMZ conflict1983 - 1983: US Invasion of Grenada1989 - 1990: US Invasion of Panama1990 - 1991: Gulf War1994 - 1995: Operation Uphold Democracy1995 - 1995: Bosnian War1999 - 1999: Kosovo War2009 - 2016: Operation Ocean Shield
Libya was a war no matter what democrats call it
I'm pretty sure they're not great people but they at least pretend to be.... something about Islam i think whereas we don't even try.
It's just a repetition of the modern US mindset - if you don't like something abroad you have the right, sometimes even the obligation, to destroy it.
It's a very common fallacy in politics from this forum to the most serious politics.
The awfulness of the target and the righteousness of the cause does not imply the attack is good/justified.
Was Trump oblivious to the realities of Netanyahu’s promised ‘easy’ war on Iran?
Peter Beaumont
Senior international correspondent
Senior US officials consider the PM’s pitch to have been overblown, creating potentially far-reaching consequences for Israel
When Benjamin Netanyahu arrived at Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago club on 29 December last year, the Israeli prime minister came with an appeal – and a not so subtle inducement.
After months of restocking air defence and other missiles after June’s 12-day conflict in which the US joined in to bomb Tehran’s nuclear facilities, Israel was ready to go again, this time with more substantial objectives.
In the press conference hosted by the two leaders, Trump appeared to dutifully echo familiar talking points of Netanyahu’s. “Now I hear that Iran is trying to build up again,” Trump said. “Then we are going to have to knock them down. We’ll knock the hell out of them. But hopefully, that’s not happening.”
The Israeli leader, like others before him, had come armed with an appeal to Trump’s ego: the award of his country’s top honour, the Israel Prize, rarely given to non-Israelis, for his “tremendous contributions to Israel and the Jewish people”.
The Natanz nuclear complex in Iran, which was bombed by Israel during the 12-day war in June 2025. Photograph: AP
According to the Atlantic, Netanyahu had suggested a final benefit to the famously transactional president: defeating Iran would allow Israel to wean itself off its massive reliance on US military aid.
That meeting, as multiple accounts have now made clear, was one of many contacts between Netanyahu and Trump in the weeks that followed as the former sought to lock in US participation for a comprehensive conflict against Tehran with far grander ambitions than the previous round of fighting.
A fragile and unpopular regime was ripe for toppling, shaken by internal protests – with Iranians furious at the lethal repression of those demonstrations, according to an assessment prepared by the Mossad, Israel’s secret service.
It would be a historic opportunity requiring a short campaign. An extra benefit dangled by the Israeli leader, according to some accounts, would be that Trump could take revenge for alleged Iranian plots against his life.
What is clear from what has subsequently emerged is that Netanyahu – a self-styled “expert” on Iran – and the wider Israeli military establishment were fully invested in their pitch of an easy war
It was always obvious but even those who somehow think this wasn't trump being led by the nose by netanyahu, will have to live with the consequences.
I feel it’s not mentioned enough that negotiations between America and Iran were ongoing when trump decided to ‘feel it in his bones’ and start a war
I feel it’s not mentioned enough that negotiations between America and Iran were ongoing when trump decided to ‘feel it in his bones’ and start a war
Didn't some Omani diplomat who acted as a mediator say ''peace within reach'' a few hours before they decided to attack Iran? Memory might be failing me but it's quite the bitchmove to attack while negotiating ''peace''. Granted nothing that involves Israel shocks me anymore.
It was always obvious but even those who somehow think this wasn't trump being led by the nose by netanyahu, will have to live with the consequences.
this looks like more antisemitism from the mainstream media
Trump Says HeÂ’s Calling IranÂ’s Bluff in Eight-Minute Interview With WSJ
Which could also mean Trump is bluffing in regard to taking out Iran's grid. So if he was going to pull out anyway without Iran opening up the Strait....
Well find out soon enough I guess.
Iran is 90 mil, 15 of which is Tehran. It’s not Iraq, Afganistan, Venezuela or an 8yo, I really hope he knows what he’s doing
Insane old man with failing health holding nukes.
Originally Posted by 5 south--Again, we have no clue what they are actually selling the majority of their oil at. All these numbers we are throwing out could have no tether at all to reality on the ground. My understanding is some portion of this is done using the barter system, and it is quite possible a lot of what they are getting from China is just military aid to keep th
No, it's just an unfunny joke that the administration couldn't even plan two dominoes ahead before dropping bombs and then having to drop sanctions on both Iranian and Russian oil. Like ffs at least show some preparation for this scenario.
I'm not American, thank you.
Our elected leader is next to useless but at least doesn't say things on a daily basis like
"I'm polling higher than anybody has ever polled in Venezuela. So after I'm finished with this I can got to Venezuela. I will quickly learn Spanish. It won't take long. I'm good at language. I will go to Venezuela. I'm going to run for president."
