Playground Poker Club (Kahnawake, QC)

As expected the 2-5 is becoming a lot tougher to beat, many of the worst 2-5 players have migrated to 1-3.

On average the 2-5 will consist of 1-2 top regs, 5-6 nit regs, 1 fish. From my experience maybe 1 out of 6 tables is beatable with the new rake structure.

Good job playground

They are prob gonna slowly turn 1/2 into 1/3 like every other rat casino in canada. Playground cant even make the excuses other casinos can about property taxes etc since its on a reserve that is 90% open land.

Are you just being dramatic about 2/5 not being beatable though? Im seeing about the same number of 2/5 tables I always do.

There’s a lot of tables running yes but most of them are nit infested. Its still beatable , you just have to table select hardcore, once in awhile you’ll end up on a decent table.

Really sucks to hear this.

I loved the old 2/5 at playground. The size was great for me, and the action was good.

I am going this weekend, first time since these new changes, so we'll see.

Appreciate the info!

complain all we want this is still better then most american casinos

I recently made my first trip to playground in almost a year, and second ever. The above was exactly my experience, and as a 2/5 player, I was quite disappointed. The action at 2/5 is noticeably worse than last year, and the tables are much reggier.

I much preferred the old, brighter, larger room with its high ceilings. The new third floor room is quite dimly lit with low ceilings which isn't a great vibe. The menu has also gotten slightly worse, with the carrot cake and cheesecake gone from the desserts.

However, it is still a positive experience, especially when compared to southern ontario. But is evident that the recent changes are not player friendly, and definitely moving things in the wrong direction.

I found it comparatively quite disappointing. I had been planning to make trips out there relatively frequently, maybe monthly during the summer. However, when factoring the drive and hotel costs, I am not sure it is really worth it over the average 2/5 game in my local casino.

How are the PLO5 games there?

Unfortunate update of another greedy casino. I took another trip here. The 5% max rake at 2/5 and above that is now replaced by 10% has killed the 5/10 which went from running 16 hours a day 7 days a week to now almost never being ran. This makes the 2/5 even worse because some of those pros from 5/10 moved down. The 5/5 PLO 5 card barely runs now but I am not sure if thats also because of the rake or maybe just the time of the year or some action players stopped playing. When you walk from the parking lot it takes almost 10 minutes to get up to the poker room instead of being the first room you walk into like it was before. Playing in a cramped dark low ceiling room sucks ass.

I doubt the 5-10 or 5-5 plo died because of the rake change. Montreal isn’t a very rich city, with high inflation recs have less and less extra money to play around with, there’s only so many fish in this city that can afford to lose at these stakes on a regular basis.

Also with woodbine running 5-10+ for the past year we’ve lost most of our toronto crowd which doesnt help either.

Hopefully games will pick up in october after the summer break.

5/10 died pretty much right at the rake change. I dont play here a lot but I look at the table list multiple times a week and 5/10 was running pretty much every day for the half year I was paying attention. If people move permanently to Toronto for poker over Montreal those are probably the ones we dont want at PG anyway.

Uh? Im saying before the GCR room opened , pg would like get alot more recs from Toronto/ontario and that would often get the 5-10 running.

i've been splitting my time recently between the Playground and the Casino. its amazing how much softer the games are at the Casino.

Bad beat up to 2 million and the fish abound.

I used to play 2/5 NL long time ago (mostly at Playground) I have been away from Poker for my years and trying to brush up on my studying/skills to come back to live poker. (I am a enthusiastic recreational player who would like to be a winning player but I am not looking to make a living)

Given what I have read here would you guys suggest I play at Montreal Casino or Poker Playground and if playground should I aim for 1/3 or 1/2?

From what i’ve heard casino 1/2 and 1/3 are way softer and rake is smaller however there is alot more tables running at pg like 25+ 1/2 and 5 1/3 at peak times because the bbjp is so high

Thanks for the advice, I am somewhat torn because I certainly want the softer games, but at this point in my life I can only really get away fto the cardroom once a month for an evening so I am scared of the wait times to play

Wait times can be higher for 1/2 at pg sometimes because place is packed due to the high bad beat.

Honestly if your looking for a nicer ambiance, free food, drinks etc i would go to pg

If your looking for a softer game and dont really care about the ambiance or free food, drinks then i would go to casino.

Ok, this has been driving me nuts and just wanna get ppl's opinion on this. Whenever the BBJ hits at PG and some of the winners at the table don't tip, the observers make a huge fuss about it: "yeah, that guy is a ****, cheap ass, jerk, etc". However, do they not realize that PG already takes 5% of your BBJ winnings before anything? For comparison, if you hit the BBJ at the casino, there's no such mandatory 'service charge' and the dealers seem to think that 3% is acceptable as a tip. In other words, if you hit at PG, maybe the dealer expects you to tip yet another 3-5%, so if you were the 'loser' in that recent BBJ, you probably tipped somewhere near $90K+(!), and it'll be like PG 8-10% vs Casino 3%. That's crazy man. Surely the dealers know about this and just pretend it's not there, but I'm disappointed in the players if they didn't know.

Is there a coat/bag check here? Would like to get a session in here before heading directly to the airport w/o having to check my bags at a hotel and come back later.

Yaaa…. On Ur left at the main entrance. U can enter with a backpack with you , but it will be investigated quickly by the security guys .

- jpp

Is the 10/25 A/S game $75 cap rake? Doesn't that mean everyone playing it is an idiot and bleeding at least -5 bb(STR)/hr?

I heard its 5% 100$ cap , its in the private rooms so they can rake wtver the fk they want and are not bound by the Kanahwake gaming commission rules like the outside games are.

Can anyone give some feedback on the 5/10 game at Playground? How is the action these days?