USA Goes to War Against Iran
USA Goes to War Against Iran
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USA Goes to War Against Iran

Time for a dedicated thread to the war.

How long will it last and what will be the probable outcome?

02 March 2026 at 06:37 PM
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These guys always be like "welp, that person deserved to die for acting within the law and their rights but boy do you guys say some mean things about me and that hurts"


by MoViN.tArGeT m

finding a decade old post I can't delete and bringing it up is. then using it to threaten me 30x times as a group. Say I know your name. It doesn't matter how I found out who you are. even if its on the same forum. When I tell others it doxing because its not public knowledge. Someone reads 10 year old posts to find my name to bring it here to threaten me. thats not cool. I d

Millennials really don’t understand the phrase “it stays in the Internet forever.”

It is also a good example of allowing blame or fault to be shared allows the person 100% responsible to claim victimhood.


by jjjou812 m

Millennials really don’t understand the phrase β€œit stays in the Internet forever.”

It is also a good example of allowing blame or fault to be shared allows the person 100% responsible to claim victimhood.

Zionist are doing their best to scrub the internet of all the crimes by the Jewish State.


I will attempt to post something on topic (and will probably fail getting this thread back on track)

Given the IRGC has closed the strait and has all the cards, why do you suppose they are letting the US Navy block ships going to and from their ports, while allowing ships to go ports of the GCC's? Is there some 5D chess strategy I am not seeing why the side holding all the cards is pursuing this strategy?


Maybe they are waiting until the river to go all in?


It should also be noted that Iran made threats of cyber warfare against the US and claimed to have some sort of hidden super weapon that would destroy Israel. Neither of these threats have materialized yet. It’s possible the US and Israel have degraded Iran’s capabilities more than the media has let on. Additionally, Iran may be in a more precarious position than some want to believe, where one of their only cards is that the western world doesn’t have much appetite for war in the ME. This might somewhat explain why their retaliations against ME countries has been so severe while not activating their US-based sleeper cells.


by checkraisdraw m

Just so you know, you don’t have to defend someone just because they incessantly fellate Israel.

Totally right but if the guy didn’t actually rape anyone then it seems silly to flood the thread with posts calling him a rapist. And tbf even if he did I’m not sure what is the relevance to Iran.


by Dunyain m

Given the IRGC has closed the strait and has all the cards, why do you suppose they are letting the US Navy block ships going to and from their ports, while allowing ships to go ports of the GCC's? Is there some 5D chess strategy I am not seeing why the side holding all the cards is pursuing this strategy?

Saudi Arabia is a larger overall supplier of oil to China than Iran. Or was until Iran blocked the Strait. In other words, while roughly 90% of Iran's oil exports are destined for China, that only accounts for 10% or so of China's oil imports.

Aside from the revenue loss from the blockade, a probably larger problem Iran is facing will be having to shut down oil wells if the can't clear the pipeline since they don't have any way to store it. Apparently there's a huge issue getting them back online.


by DoyleBrunsonFan m

If the guy didn’t actually rape anyone, I’d hazard a guess that the accusers in this thread are likely projecting. As Victor likes to say, β€œevery accusation is a confession.”

Mongo himself described incidences that he instigated that were at the very least arguably date-rape. It's not an accusation being pulled out of thin-air.


by Victor m

its def Israel

Unless you can source this claim, this is blatant antisemitism, since you're not merely criticizing the government but calling Israel itself a rape culture.

Vic hates them Joos.


by geezerchess m

Mongo himself described incidences that he instigated that were at the very least arguably date-rape. It's not an accusation being pulled out of thin-air.

Correct, it’s debatable at least. Which is what I said at the time and maintain. I’m not going to say I know for a fact he is one, but he has at least said some very creepy stuff about women. I think the paint stuff is overblown but it was a weird Patrick Bateman moment lol


by geezerchess m

Unless you can source this claim, this is blatant antisemitism, since you're not merely criticizing the government but calling Israel itself a rape culture.

Vic hates them Joos.

glad we agree that criticism of Israel is antisemitic. now it clear why its such a cynical idea in this day and age.


by geezerchess m

Unless you can source this claim, this is blatant antisemitism, since you're not merely criticizing the government but calling Israel itself a rape culture.

Vic hates them Joos.

He has explicitly called Israel a rape culture countless times in this thread, with never anything but anecdotes (which themselves are fake propaganda most of the time) to back up the claim. You dont appear very familiar with Vic's game if you are just coming to this conclusion now.


by Dunyain m

Given the IRGC has closed the strait and has all the cards, why do you suppose they are letting the US Navy block ships going to and from their ports, while allowing ships to go ports of the GCC's? Is there some 5D chess strategy I am not seeing why the side holding all the cards is pursuing this strategy?

I'll ignore whatever that wisdom Twitter had to offer as I have yet to see a tweet that justifies the hassle of turning off the social media filter.

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The question is absurd because the whole reason this scenario is a debacle is because it is easy (relatively) to throttle civilian traffic through the strait for an aggressor willing to kill civilian seamen, but very difficult to prevent someone from doing it.

That a powerful navy can blockade Iranian ports does not change that equation anymore than kicking your neighbour's dog protects your cat from being run over. Excuse the anecdote, I do love animals, but it seemed like an effective analogy.

Perhaps there is some idea that after a long siege there is no resources left for Iran to fight with, but armed forces serving the regime obviously have their own logistics and supplies. It can be a long time before whatever horrors is imposed on Iran affect their capacities.

Traffic through the Strait is pretty much at the same crawl it has been throughout the conflict. Saying that ships are passing is a red herring, as the problem is that traffic is almost non-existent compared to what it was before the war. We'll also have to wait and see how effective the blockade actually is. Is there an actual political willingness to stop blockade runners and the face the diplomatic repercussions for doing so? That's a fair question for a Trump administration that has done a lot of posturing but often faltered.


by tame_deuces m

I'll ignore whatever that wisdom Twitter had to offer as I have yet to see a tweet that justifies the hassle of turning off the social media filter.-The question is absurd because the whole reason this scenario is a debacle is because it is easy (relatively) to throttle civilian traffic through the strait for an aggressor willing to kill civilian seamen, but very difficult to p

That is a tongue and cheek comment to Luckbox, who insists Iran has all the cards because they declared they are pirates. My point is it is a lot more complicated than that.

And yes, technology was always going to make it so in our globalized world economy an industrialized nation could use stochastic terrorism to highly disrupt trade, supply chains, and globalization itself IF the rest of the world permitted it. And the rest of the world permitted Iran to build such capabilities for various reasons. So here we are.

Zeihan suggests at this point we should just accept that globalization is dead, and work to build homegrown manufacturing capacity and self sufficiency. But despite Trump making noise in this direction, he isn't actually following through.

China for its part has been 2 steps ahead the whole time. And has cornered entire industries and is using leverage to try to block other nations from developing such self sufficiency, so they are dependent on globalism, even as it falls apart. Again though, China's strategy doesn't really seem coherent in a long enough time frame, as it is trying to make the world as dependent on globalism as possible, while enabling regimes that directly threaten globalism (Russia, Iran, NK) they dont seem to have the capacity or will to control.


by Victor m

glad we agree that criticism of Israel is antisemitic. now it clear why its such a cynical idea in this day and age.

No, we don't agree on that. You never pass up an opportunity to criticize Israel, even when it's a derail topic and EVEN WHEN YOU CAN'T SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM.

You said the country with the most rapes is 'def Israel.' In other words, no doubt at all. If you can provide the data that it is 'definitely' Israel, I'd like to know about it. But, of course you can't and you won't because you are an antisemite.

Note well that I have many, many times expressed my view that the charge of 'antisemism!' is leveled way to often and as often as not is an unjustified accusation.

Your body of work speaks for itself. You can't help yourself even in a DERAIL of the original topic.


by Dunyain m

He has explicitly called Israel a rape culture countless times in this thread, with never anything but anecdotes (which themselves are fake propaganda most of the time) to back up the claim. You dont appear very familiar with Vic's game if you are just coming to this conclusion now.

I'm familiar with Vic's game, but he's not usually this brazen about it.

I wish he'd just flat out admit that he hates Joos rather than play coy all the time like he does.


by geezerchess m

I'm familiar with Vic's game, but he's not usually this brazen about it.

I wish he'd just flat out admit that he hates Joos rather than play coy all the time like he does.

I don’t find Vic’s open antisemitism any more egregious than your horse whisperers, Cenk and Ana.


by Dunyain m

I don’t find Vic’s open antisemitism any more egregious than your horse whisperers, Cenk and Ana.

You must be more aware of their work than me. I have not personally heard them criticize Jews and the citizens of Israel per se. If they have, I will be consistent and call them out as well.



Are these like the β€œgo fast boats” from the Miami Vice movie?


by geezerchess m

No, we don't agree on that. You never pass up an opportunity to criticize Israel, even when it's a derail topic and EVEN WHEN YOU CAN'T SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM. You said the country with the most rapes is 'def Israel.' In other words, no doubt at all. If you can provide the data that it is 'definitely' Israel, I'd like to know about it. But, of course you can't and you won't bec

I didnt start the derail man. if people are discussing which countries have a rape problem, well sorry for mentioning the country that is currently raping thousands of men women and children in torture prisons.

I have no problem with Jews that oppose Zionism. for instance, the Jews in Iran who's synagogue was bombed by the Jewish State.


by Victor m

I didnt start the derail man. if people are discussing which countries have a rape problem, well sorry for mentioning the country that is currently raping thousands of men women and children in torture prisons.

I have no problem with Jews that oppose Zionism. for instance, the Jews in Iran who's synagogue was bombed by the Jewish State.

By the same epistemic standard you use to reject rape on Oct 7th you should reject the claims of mass rape in Israeli prisons.


by Victor m

I didnt start the derail man. if people are discussing which countries have a rape problem, well sorry for mentioning the country that is currently raping thousands of men women and children in torture prisons.

I have no problem with Jews that oppose Zionism. for instance, the Jews in Iran who's synagogue was bombed by the Jewish State.

I didn't say you started the derail.

Anyway, please document your claim that Israel definitely (your word) has more rapes (per capita or total) than any other country. Thanks!


by checkraisdraw m

By the same epistemic standard you use to reject rape on Oct 7th you should reject the claims of mass rape in Israeli prisons.

There are named victims in the latter.


by tame_deuces m

I'll Traffic through the Strait is pretty much at the same crawl it has been throughout the conflict. Saying that ships are passing is a red herring, as the problem is that traffic is almost non-existent compared to what it was before the war. We'll also have to wait and see how effective the blockade actually is. Is there an actual political willingness to stop blockade runner

Fair enough but Iran didn't have to close the Strait. There's really no military advantage to be had for them in doing so and all things considered it was probably -EV with all the assets they've lost. So they closed it to put diplomatic or economic pressure on the US. So the US is just doing the same back. We don't have to sink ships, nor does Iran. It's more the threat that's keeping traffic at a crawl. And while the rest of the world is suffering some expenses, we can hold our economic breath a lot longer than Iran can.

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