[extracted] New(?) 9-11 stuff

[extracted] New(?) 9-11 stuff

KSM got a plea deal. The guy who supposedly masterminded the 9/11 attacks is not getting the death penalty.

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01 August 2024 at 05:08 PM
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I guess my follow-up Q will be: how does gravity work?


by Trolly McTrollson

I guess my follow-up Q will be: how does gravity work

Define 'gravity.'


by d2_e4

As above: If you're just being pedantic that someone said "measuring the angle to the curve" instead of "measuring the angle to the tangent to the curve", that is accepted shorthand and you are a ****ing idiot for even bringing it up and thereby muddying the waters for whatever your real objection is.If you're not being pedantic, you are a ****ing idiot for not knowing that you

I'm going to ignore the ad hom attacks and childish insults. As the bigger man here.

My objections are clear. The two relevant diagrams posted multiple times. Here, see if you can spot the problems. (Answers given above).



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by d2_e4

As above: If you're just being pedantic that someone said "measuring the angle to the curve" instead of "measuring the angle to the tangent to the curve", that is accepted shorthand and you are a ****ing idiot for even bringing it up and thereby muddying the waters for whatever your real objection is.If you're not being pedantic, you are a ****ing idiot for not knowing that you

A tangent is a straight line not a curve. But that is besides the point. That is just for amusement at your insistence on angles between curves.

Here, perhaps if I just post one diagram per post you will be able to see it. See the flat baseline there? That is the flat earth required to measure the height of the mountain.


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by jalfrezi

Why is it that on a flat earth an observer moving further away from the mountain loses sight of its peak (even with telescopes etc)?

Reduced angular size and limited resolution power.

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by Trolly McTrollson

Serious Q: if the Earth is flat, what keeps the oceans from spilling off the edges

Yep, straight from the playbook.

Globe tards tie themselves up in contradictory knots (curvature both can and can't be seen) and along comes a troll with silly questions to divert attention.

Oh and thanks Gorgo, nice find.

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by 1&onlybillyshears

A tangent is a straight line not a curve. But that is besides the point. That is just for amusement at your insistence on angles between curves.Here, perhaps if I just post one diagram per post you will be able to see it. See the flat baseline there? That is the flat earth required to measure the height of the mountain.Sent from my SM-A366B using Tapatalk

You lost your d2 goodwill privileges by being an insufferable twat one too many times, so see if you can use your words to make your point. Or see if you can **** off. I don't much care which.

Keep in mind that I haven't been keeping track of whatever this whole thing is, despite the fact that you chose one of my posts to respond to about it, so I have no idea why or how we're measuring the height of mountains. I responded to one of your points about measuring angles to a curve, that was it.


by Trolly McTrollson

I guess my follow-up Q will be: how does gravity work

I'm not sure anybody really knows. The current default to Einstein's 'curvature in space-time' doesn't tell you all that much.


by Trolly McTrollson

Serious Q: if the Earth is flat, what keeps the oceans from spilling off the edges

Probably the Great Wall of Ice round the outside.


by Trolly McTrollson

Serious Q: if the Earth is flat, what keeps the oceans from spilling off the edges

Barriers like the Barrier Reef of course.


by d2_e4

You lost your d2 goodwill privileges by being an insufferable twat one too many times, so see if you can use your words to make your point. Or see if you can **** off. I don't much care which.Keep in mind that I haven't been keeping track of whatever this whole thing is, despite the fact that you chose one of my posts to respond to about it, so I have no idea why or how we're m

It looks like he is stupidly attacking the Al Biruni method for calculating the size of the earth. That was something I brought up. He no longer has the privilege of interacting with me, so I don't know or care what he's on about with regards to it (I'm only talking to people with functioning brains in here from now on), but, as I'm sure you know, a flat earth is not required to measure the height of a mountain.

There's, of course, also the vanishing point concept, mentioned earlier, which conclusively demonstrates curvature. Even refraction, which only very rarely would show the horizon lower than it really is, cannot explain it. Most of the time, refraction would make the horizon appear higher than it actually is, and it still always appears below the vanishing point (yet to see a counter-example, but if I did, it would just demonstrate which one is more rare, and which one is more common).

It's just yet another super obvious nail in the coffin for his nonsense.


by 1&onlybillyshears

Yep, straight from the playbook.

Globe tards tie themselves up in contradictory knots (curvature both can and can't be seen) and along comes a troll with silly questions to divert attention.

Oh and thanks Gorgo, nice find.

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Why is it a silly question?

Of course, I think I know why YOU would think it's a silly question: You don't have a good answer to it.


by Gorgonian

It looks like he is stupidly attacking the Al Biruni method for calculating the size of the earth. That was something I brought up. He no longer has the privilege of interacting with me, so I don't know or care what he's on about with regards to it, but, as I'm sure you know, a flat earth is not required to measure the height of a mountain.

Hmm. Better call Al. Can call me (Al) instead.

Most likely Al-Busted used a clinometer of sorts to measure two angles of elevation from the FLAT baseline that is the surface of the Earth.

Al measure Earth flat, therefore. He then goes on to measure the radius of this flat plane using a curved (refracted) tangent line of sight to the flat plane he used to ascertain the mountain height. Or, if you prefer, the curved (refracted) tangent line of sight to the presupposed sphere edge "horizon" that is no longer an apparent horizon (what we see) but a hard geometric sphere edge.

If that does not seem to make sense that's because it doesn't. The geometry alone is contradictory and when correction factors are added, i.e. refraction, it is doubly busted.

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by geezerchess

Why is it a silly question?

Of course, I think I know why YOU would think it's a silly question: You don't have a good answer to it.

"Why don't the oceans spill off the edges?" He asks. What edges? A flat plane has no edges. Therefore the question is silly. As silly as d2's orbiting flat plane with its edges.

Just at the point the clown committee is in disarray over the plain fact that earth curve is not discernible, trolly mcClown swoops in as white knight.

Well if he thinks billy is going to allow that level of tomfoolery he is very much mistaken.

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by 1&onlybillyshears

Hmm. Better call Al. Can call me (Al) instead.Most likely Al-Busted used a clinometer of sorts to measure two angles of elevation from the FLAT baseline that is the surface of the Earth.Al measured Earth flat, therefore. He then goes on to measure the radius of this flat plane using a curved (refracted) tangent line of sight to the flat plane he used to ascertain the mountain h

I honestly can't understand wtf any of this is saying. It's word salad.


by 1&onlybillyshears

"Why don't the oceans spill off the edges?" He asks. What edges? A flat plane has no edges. Therefore the question is silly. As silly as d2's orbiting flat plane with its edges.

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So the Earth flat and infinite?


by d2_e4

I honestly can't understand wtf any of this is saying. It's word salad.

Bingo.

It is an accurate portrayal of the Al-Busto trainwreck.

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by d2_e4

So the Earth flat and infinite?

Is that such an impossible concept? Or are there no infinities in nature?

If you think not then you might want to look at contemporary big bang models.

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by 1&onlybillyshears

Is that such an impossible concept? Or are there no infinities in nature?

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Well it just raises some additional questions, like why we haven't found anything new on its surface in the last few hundred years. We seem to have mapped the whole thing out, and no matter how hard we try, we can't seem to go any further. In fact, we seem to keep coming back to where we started, almost like going round in circles or something.

I'm sure you have a theory about this, I'd like to hear it.


by 1&onlybillyshears

If you think not then you might want to look at contemporary big bang models.

If you mean the model where Adam and Eve had a big bang, you'd need to talk to geezerchess about that.


The oceans don't spill off the edges because there are no edges. Bet you didn't see that one coming, suckers!


by d2_e4

Well it just raises some additional questions, like why we haven't found anything new on its surface in the last few hundred years. We seem to have mapped the whole thing out, and no matter how hard we try, we can't seem to go any further. In fact, we seem to keep coming back to where we started, almost like going round in circles or something.I'm sure you have a theory about t

It's a giant mobius strip.


by biggerboat

It's a giant mobius strip.

I mean, I already suggested an mmmm torus, but Billy did not take too kindly to such tomfoolery.


by 1&onlybillyshears

Is that such an impossible concept? Or are there no infinities in nature?

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There are no infinities involving single solid massive objects. All those are finite by nature.


by 57 On Red

There are no infinities involving single solid massive objects. All those are finite by nature.

I particularly enjoy how Billy explains to us about infinite flat Earth and nearby electric sun and hoax space missions and directed energy weapons as though these things are all self evident, and we are the donkeys for not having figured all this out for ourselves.

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