[extracted] New(?) 9-11 stuff

[extracted] New(?) 9-11 stuff

KSM got a plea deal. The guy who supposedly masterminded the 9/11 attacks is not getting the death penalty.

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01 August 2024 at 05:08 PM
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by Gorgonian

You will never meet an intellectually honest 911 truther, flat-earther, moon landing/space denier, or antivaxer. They don't exist. If you do find one, they don't stay one for long enough to matter.

I mean, it's obvious he's batshit insane so it's hard to get angry with him. It's like getting angry with your pet for doing animal things. Or a toddler. To be honest, I don't know if he even has the mens rea for intellectual dishonesty; he is non compos mentis.


by geezerchess

I agree that God's words are pure and we are not to change His words. The Scriptures always have a literal meaning, but that doesn't mean that every word is to be understood literally. For example, if I said "I was up with the chickens this morning.", no reasonable person would infer that I was literally sleeping in the henhouse.Here is a useful guideline, from the The Prefac

It is a simple matter then. The only thing stopping you declaring earth to be stationary in accordance with the advice on reading the bible, advice confirmed in the bible itself, is your other deeply held religious belief, the heliocentric satanic space monkey religion.

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by d2_e4

I mean, it's obvious he's batshit insane so it's hard to get angry with him. It's like getting angry with your pet for doing animal things. Or a toddler. To be honest, I don't know if he even has the mens rea for intellectual dishonesty; he is non compos mentis.

It's hard to cheat on your tests when they are soaked through with your own drool.


by 1&onlybillyshears

It worked before satellites were first "sent up there" also. About 60 or 70 years prior.

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No, nothing like. Radio navigation using ground stations (Gee, Loran and Decca) became practical in the 1940s, but it was always range-limited by the curve of the Earth, even when reflecting the signals off the ionosphere, and the accuracy deteriorated with range, and the coverage was never near global, all owing to the dependence on ground stations. Global triangulation, by which phones, cars, ships and planes always know where they are, only became possible when a chain of geostationary satellites was in place.


by 57 On Red

No, nothing like. Radio navigation using ground stations (Gee, Loran and Decca) became practical in the 1940s, but it was always range-limited by the curve of the Earth, even when reflecting the signals off the ionosphere, and the accuracy deteriorated with range, and the coverage was never near global, all owing to the dependence on ground stations. Global triangulation, by wh

1940s... let's see... Marconi, the first transatlantic radio signal broadcast and received in, *checks notes*, 1901.

Oh dear. Looks like another flat earth proof courtesy of 57 on red and our resident flattard d2.

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Billy, I'm sure you're old enough to remember the days when you could get extra channels on your TV by purchasing one of dem parabolic "satellite" dishes and a subscription. Or "statellite", as Del Boy would say. That was all a massive scam, right?


by 1&onlybillyshears

1940s... let's see... Marconi, the first transatlantic radio signal broadcast and received in, *checks notes*, 1901.

Oh dear. Looks like another flat earth proof courtesy of 57 on red and our resident flattard d2.

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No, that's completely irrelevant. I already mentioned that radio signals can be extended in range (but only so far) by reflecting off the ionosphere. As everyone but you knows. Global geolocation was never possible until the satellites were in place. It is nobody else's fault that you are incapable of understanding anything but your own feeble, corny and derivative fantasies.


by 57 On Red

No, that's completely irrelevant. I already mentioned that radio signals can be extended in range (but only so far) by reflecting off the ionosphere. As everyone but you knows. Global geolocation was never possible until the satellites were in place. It is nobody else's fault that you are incapable of understanding anything but your own feeble, corny and derivative fantasies.

Except I mentioned it before you did so I am clearly aware of the claim of bouncing off waves from the atmosphere.

And there we have it. Radio signals not possible without satellites, so goes the balltard claim.

Just consider those two points made by you:

1. Radiowaves can bounce off the particles in the atmosphere to travel 2000 miles.
2. Long range geolocation impossible prior to satellites.

Keep going boys, you will have converted 2p2 to flatearthery in no time.

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by d2_e4

Billy, I'm sure you're old enough to remember the days when you could get extra channels on your TV by purchasing one of dem parabolic "satellite" dishes and a subscription. Or "statellite", as Del Boy would say. That was all a massive scam, right?

The writers were pretty clever, maybe they were making a point. Like the Simpsons.


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I feel myself being proselytised already. So, will you explain to us how geolocation works in the present day to seal the deal?


by 1&onlybillyshears

Stationary Earth is beyond doubt. So yes geocentrism is more reasonable than heliocentrism.

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Stationary Earth might be beyond doubt in your own head, but it certainly isn't 'beyond doubt' based on Scripture. (Of course, not ruled-out by Scripture either afaik.)


by 1&onlybillyshears

It is a simple matter then. The only thing stopping you declaring earth to be stationary in accordance with the advice on reading the bible, advice confirmed in the bible itself, is your other deeply held religious belief, the heliocentric satanic space monkey religion.

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Nice try, Skippy! I have no vested interest in the shape of the Earth or whether it's a spinning ball or whether it is stationary or whatever.

Why do you think it is that I try to answer your questions, but you often ignore mine?

Anyhoo, I'll take another break from you for a while. I have only so much patience attempting to have a conversation with someone who combines arrogance with intellectual dishonesty.


by geezerchess

Stationary Earth might be beyond doubt in your own head, but it certainly isn't 'beyond doubt' based on Scripture. (Of course, not ruled-out by Scripture either afaik.)

It is beyond doubt based on the results of the Michelson-Morley experiments, and more informally drop tests. Not only that, the experiments prove the aether rotates about the earth at the predicted rate (the null result of the MM is not quite null).

If you do not know what that means then feck off and revise it before coming back here to me with your satanic spinning monkey BS.

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Oh, hey Billy. How does geolocation work? What about satellite TV?


by 1&onlybillyshears

It is beyond doubt based on the results of the Michelson-Morley experiments, and more informally drop tests. Not only that, the experiments prove the aether rotates about the earth at the predicted rate (the null result of the MM is not quite null).If you do not know what that means then feck off and revise it before coming back here to me with your satanic spinning monkey BS.S

This also debunks the "geostationary satellite" fantasy. The only way "GPS" can work is via ground based antenna signals. Which is ofc course all it is and all it ever was. This predates the "orbital satellite" fairytale by decades.

"Satellite tv"... same thing.

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by d2_e4

Oh, hey Billy. How does geolocation work? What about satellite TV?

D2 keeps spamming this question. Why? It is the impossible satellites that need explaining, not radio signals transiting oceans for the last 120 years.

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by 1&onlybillyshears

D2 keeps spamming this question. Why? It is the impossible satellites that need explaining, not radio signals transiting oceans for the last 120 years.

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I keep asking you this, and you keep pretending you've answered it, but you haven't answered it at all.

What are the three or four reference points your phone is communicating with to establish its location?


by 1&onlybillyshears

D2 keeps spamming this question. Why? It is the impossible satellites that need explaining, not radio signals transiting oceans for the last 120 years.

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I keep spamming this question because you keep pretending to answer it without actually answering it. Answering with a non sequitur is not an answer.

The question is not "satellites" anything. It is "how does geolocation on your device work?" But I've explained this so many times already that surely even you understand it by now and are just pretending to be even more stupid than you are.


by d2_e4

I keep asking you this, and you keep pretending you've answered it, but you haven't answered it at all.

What are the three or four reference points your phone is communicating with to establish its location?

They could be anywhere. Who cares. There is no problem because we do not have earth curve. There is no barrier to transmission of radiowaves. If you would like to know the science of electromagnetism then ok, I will need to revise my notes for that.

How would I even find this info? How would you find out which particular phoney "satellite" was responsible for transmitting signals? You cannot. They do not exist.

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by 1&onlybillyshears

They could be anywhere. Who cares. There is no problem because we do not have earth curve. There is no barrier to transmission of radiowaves. If you would like to know the science of electromagnetism then ok, I will need to revise my notes for that.How would I even find this info? How would you find out which particular phoney "satellite" was responsible for transmitting signal

OK. Why did it take about 10 times of asking the same question for you to say "I don't know"?


by d2_e4

OK. Why did it take about 10 times of asking the same question for you to say "I don't know"?

That he finally answered your question at all is almost a miracle in itself.

And speaking of NoSpinBilly avoiding questions, maybe now we can have a scintilla of hope that he'll answer this question we've been asking for weeks: How come literally ZERO folks who worked for NASA on the Apollo program have admitted the moon landings were all fake?


How would I even find this info?

That’s a real pickle isn’t it? Wouldn’t it be great if each of those phoney satellites broadcast an identifier? We could call it something like a Space Vehicle Number. Maybe even, and I’m just spitballing here, have each of those satellites broadcast its orbital information AS WELL AS its SVN. We might be able to use a system like that for a lot of cool things.


by WotPeed

That’s a real pickle isn’t it? Wouldn’t it be great if each of those phoney satellites broadcast an identifier? We could call it something like a Space Vehicle Number. Maybe even, and I’m just spitballing here, have each of those satellites broadcast its orbital information AS WELL AS its SVN. We might be able to use a system like that for a lot of cool things.

And you believe this do you?

How do you reconcile this with the proof of the Michelson-Morley test, Earth is not spinning. Thereby falsifying satellites.

On the one hand, a cool story about satellites.

On the other, reproducible and repeatable scientific evidence.

Tough one that.

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by 1&onlybillyshears

And you believe this do you?

How do you reconcile this with the proof of the Michelson-Morley test, Earth is not spinning. Thereby falsifying satellites.

On the one hand, a cool story about satellites.

On the other, reproducible and repeatable scientific evidence.

Tough one that.

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Quite easily: so-called scientists are correct about what Michelson-Morley demonstrates, batshit insane internet cretin is wrong.


by 1&onlybillyshears

….. If you would like to know the science of electromagnetism then ok, I will need to revise my notes for that. ….

Anyone else picture Billy with stacks of notebooks or just scrap paper piled around his apartment and him searching frantically for the “Notes” that need revision about electromagnetism.

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