PAHWM - insane pre-flop action in bonkers 1/2 home game
1/2 with occasional straddling of 5/10/20/40. It'll be 1/2 for a few orbits, then 1/2/5, then 1/2/5/10, then 1/2/5/10/20
Different hand. Not the same game. That one above was 1/3 played at Rivers Philly.
Can’t help here, I fold pre-flop
I look at every player that enters the pot as an obstacle, not giving me pot odds. 50 raise in 1/2 game several callers - I’m not playing Doyle’s hand OOP. I lost $5
You, acting like you had it all the time, flop a monster. It is hard to make a bad move after that and we’re quibbling over a little value.
GG
Maybe you put a lot of money in pre-flop, in a spot where you lose most of the time
but not this time, so it seems like a good play
Can’t help here, I fold pre-flop
I look at every player that enters the pot as an obstacle, not giving me pot odds. 50 raise in 1/2 game several callers - I’m not playing Doyle’s hand OOP. I lost $5
You, acting like you had it all the time, flop a monster. It is hard to make a bad move after that and we’re quibbling over a little value.
GG
Maybe you put a lot of money in pre-flop, in a spot where you lose most of the time
but not this time, so it seems like a good play
I generally play very exploitative, working from reads and trying to use consistent logic.
The maniac raising to $40-$60 when there was already $48 in the pot and three players who limped from EP was curious to me, when I'd seen him open to $50 when there was $3 in the pot and no limpers.
I thought any of the players between him and me and especially any of the limpers could be sand-bagging, so I opted to flat call in the $5 straddle with AQo, and see what developed. It seemed reasonable to me at the time, in a gambly game.
The back-raise for $100 more off a $450-ish stack when there was about $250 in the pot already looked completely FOS. When everyone but the BB folded to me, I felt better raising. The BB should be extremely capped there, after cold-calling and then double flatting.
My read at that point was that my hand was very likely best, or at worst I was flipping against my opponents' ranges, and a raise to $500 should be enough to take it down.
Sure enough, I was flipping against the kid who back-raised with JJ. If he had just jammed instead of clicking it, I wouldn't have called, and he'd have won the pot.
I don't think I lose here most of the time. My reads and the ranges I was giving my opponents were both pretty spot on. I don't think the kid is ever doing this with QQ+/AK. I don't think any of the other opponents are doing what they did with QQ+/AK.
The kid seems to have been doing the same thing I was doing - playing defensively while gathering information from our opponents' actions. I think I understand why he didn't jam rather than click it, with the maniac opening for a small size on his direct left. Once the maniac folds, I understand why he decided to go with his hand after I back-4B.
He just got unlucky with the run-out. Even if I lost the hand to him, I'd have been fine with my thought process pre flop. I don't mind getting it in pre as a slight under-dog when there's so much dead money in the pot.
There was over $260 in dead money from the other players, five of whom had already folded, when I back-raised. That's a hell of an overlay.
When the UTG kid jams over my 4B, the second kid folds, the last kid re-jams, and the BB calls the $500, my 4B seems insanely profitable. The three of them just put in $1400 on top of over $200 in dead money, two of them apparently with hands worse than JJ or worse AX than my AQ. I was getting over 3:1. My play can't be terrible.
