T9s - *clicks button*, *shuts down*

Everything looks good.

You could keep blasting on the turn, but I think it's fine to shut down on this card. Especially as v checks back and let's us draw.

Now fold.

no idea why you CR'd the flop, but now fold.

You’ve given v permission to steal by checking turn & river, the flush draw bricked, so he might be trying to push a missed draw thru. If he sees you as bluffy/fos, & you’re not making a play for the pot, you must be weak.

The flip side is villain may be afraid of the flush, but once it bricks - he figures his jack is good.

The logical choice is to fold the river, but the story villain is telling is shaky.

I just don’t see the lines you take very often. If someone makes a strong move check-raising the flop, they are barreling. I understand checking more OOP - but these two moves don’t go together and it’s confusing.

The population call 3bets & x-r before thinking it thru. By the next bet, they come to their senses & get out of the way. You need to bet the turn & give villain the opportunity to fold.

Sometimes, I put people on AK and call down with 2nd pair - actually pretty good at this. But I don’t think AK from villain’s actions here. The people I catch are betting big & overplaying their hand.

I don’t think you should use the x-r as a fold device, unless you go much bigger. Otherwise, you end up in a situation like this with a mediocre hand OOP, not sure where you’re at.

It seems okay to me.

The BB defend with T9s - fine. The flop x/r with middle pair and some backdoor stuff going on - mostly fine, if slightly optimistic, but far from terrible. The turn check on a brick - fine.

River - I think we have to call when we take this line with this hand, against this V.

Not really worried about the actual results. Overall it seems fairly well played.

T9s is a hard hand to play oop. Completing the BB is fine. Folding pre can’t be too bad either.

I think I would just call the 20 on the flop and evaluate turn.

Why check raise flop? Why shut down after V calls? Play like you have 33, 99, or J9. If you check raise the flop, you are transparent unless you also barrel the turn.

I don't understand x/r'ing flop, checking turn, and folding river when the turn checks through. Are you just giving him nothing but TT and better when he calls our flop raise?

We need to be logically consistent.

If we think he's c-betting too much, even multi-way, with too many hands that are worse than ours, and therefore we're x/r'ing flop for value, we should either barrel turn to target his worse 1P and draws, and then maybe check river to let him bluff, or we should check turn to let him stab at it, and if he doesn't stab, then we should either lead river or check-call.

If we're x/r'ing flop as a bluff, what better hands are we trying to make fold? It seems to me that those hands aren't likely to fold to a single raise on the flop. So we should x/r using a smaller size, and then barrel turn.

When we x/r flop and check turn, then check again on the river, it looks like we were just monkey-raising, maybe with a combo draw or just a regular draw of some sort, and gave up on the turn after he called. Unless we're taking a really weird line of raising flop with a monster and then trapping turn and river, which doesn't make much sense when the board is so draw-heavy.

A lot of players in his spot would check back their SDV on the river, or bet small for thin value. It doesn't make sense for him to pot it for value when it looks like you just missed a draw and can't call a big bet, or you're taking an insanely trappy line with a boat/quads. Your line gave him the green light to bluff the river.

Think about it. If we had 2P+ on the flop, would we check turn? If he had an over-pair to the board, or better, would he check back turn, and then bomb river after we check twice? Is this the line he'd take with TT+?

I wouldn't love calling a PSB here, but we gave him plenty of rope, we unblock all his missed spade draws and un-paired over-cards, and his line doesn't make a ton of sense. I think if we're going to take the line we did, we need to hero call the river.

Initially read the board as Ts9s3c 6 3 ... and I thought it was played fine, although a disciplined fold on the river.

After I realized it was J93 ... go home SB you're drunk.

Just because two fish are in the hand doesn't mean you should be doing (what are maybe) low freq. HU plays.

Would much prefer like 8c7c instead of middle pair.

Also the 6 turn is mostly a brick on J9x, so your turn check is going to be hard to balance with anything that can call.

Banana, plenty of people can find a x/r on the flop with 2P+ for value, or a high equity draw as a bluff. But that leads to most people not finding enough x/r's, especially versus competent opponents who will c-bet the flop at a very high frequency when HU as the PFR.

Check-raising for a smallish size with middle pair + BDFD + BDSD is actually good, IMO. We can give up on bad turn cards (cards that are better for V), and otherwise barrel across a lot of turns that give us additional equity, or are just neutral.

When we x/r the flop and check turn, recs will often be scared to bet with thin value or a semi-bluff, because they're worried about us going for another x/r. But a good, thinking opponent is more likely to bet range, both with value and bluffs, because they understand we should have some flop x/r's that give up and x/f turn.

When the turn checks through, V could be trapping with value, hoping to induce us to bluff river with our missed draws. But think about it. How likely is it that he'll check back with a value hand and give us a free card, on a draw heavy board, when it looks like we're on a draw?

Most good players are going to bet their value there, and for a big size, specifically targeting our inelastic draws and worse value. He's more likely to check back with his draws and his un-paired over-cards that decided to float the flop in position.

When we check again on the river, it looks like we have a busted draw, or some very weak value hand that we over-played on the flop. The worst value hand we have on the flop would be 3x, which rivers trips. The worst value hand we have on the river is just 9x, or some PP between 44 and 88.

Our river check gives V the green light to bet small for thin value, targeting our worse value, or bet big as a bluff. It doesn't make sense for him to bomb it with value when we've taken the line we took here. We could be trapping with 3x, but are otherwise mostly going to have busted draws that will fold to any size bet.

I'd challenge anyone in V's spot and playing low stakes to put you on 9X here, and explain why V should bet big with a better value hand. He's probably not getting to the river with very much 3x, the way this was played, unless he specifically has A3ss. He's probably not taking this line with TT+.

Just go back and look at his line, starting pre. He raised small over an EP limp. That doesn't look like TT+. Sure, he c-bet into three opponents, but he used a 1/3 pot size, on a super wet and dynamic board. That doesn't look nutted.

He can have a lot of high equity draws on this board. He might also just be range betting with a plan to bet-fold if one of the fish x/r. You may be the only player in the hand that he thinks is capable of finding a light x/r. If he had a thick value hand that c-bet small, there has to be some 3B frequency on the flop, on such a draw-heavy board.

So he floats the flop x/r, and checks back turn. It seems likely he doesn't have a strong hand, but wants to see if he can get there with his draws, and see if you check twice before he makes a play for the pot with a big bet. I'd be weighting his range heavily towards draws, and also giving him some total air, in the form of un-paired over-cards that floated wide, thinking he could make a play if you pump the brakes on a later street.

I'm on board with your flop x/r. I think the turn check on a total brick is fine. Once he checks back turn, I think we usually have the best hand, and I'd be checking again on the river brick, to let him bluff at it, because that seems like it would be his plan when he bet-calls flop and checks back turn.