S-Points: Vegas Summer Tournament Structure Analysis
S-Points: Vegas Summer Tournament Structure Analysis
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S-Points: Vegas Summer Tournament Structure Analysis

Every year I update my site with structure data from all the Vegas summer poker tournament series and calculate S-Points

08 May 2023 at 11:50 PM
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Vegas 2025 Orleans No Limit Holdem Sun 6/29/2025 11:05 AM 400
15% 69
(this is also true for Orleans 6/22 Sunday special )

I think you need to increase the starting chips in your calculation to 50,000 for the $300+$100 add on and it changes the S rating from 69 to 81 from the increase in the 100% minutes of play

S-Points Calculator

Instructions
Buy-In:
400
Fees:
60
Orbit 6:
2000
Orbit 10:
5000
Orbit 14:
13000
Orbit 18:
30000
100% Mins:
600
Submit

Vig% 15.0%
S-Points 81


Would you be adding South Point and RW events?


Thanks to both of you for the issues. RealMcCoy you were exactly right with my errors and I corrected the Golden Nugget and Orleans tournaments just like you advised.

No, I will not be adding SouthPoint and Resorts World because it looks like a regular weekly/daily schedule and nothing special. If I am wrong or in the future they do a special series I will definitely add them.


According to Poker Atlas Resorts World does have a Summer Series:
https://www.pokeratlas.com/poker-tournament-series/rwlv-2025-summer-series-resorts-world-las-vegas-2025

They show it starting on 6/5, but the first 6 days look like their regular dailies. Starting on 6/11 they are mixing in some (slightly) higher buy-in events with (slightly) higher guarantees, some of which have bigger starting stacks. There's also a few mixed game tournaments on the schedule and a "Ladies Crystal Cup Championship". Their evening tournaments continue without changes, and it looks like there are still plenty of days with their standard $200/25k chips/30 min daily tournaments. It's nowhere near as varied as most of the other series, with no multi-day events or bounty tournaments. I used your calculator for their $400 deep stack event on 6/13 and came up with 57, while I believe their standard $200 daily is 50.


I just updated my comparison page:

https://www.rainbowspuppiessunshine.com/...

The top beaks down Hold'em tournaments. It let's you know what you can expect in terms of S-Points and Vig% for a tournament in various price ranges so you can pick the best ones in your price range.

The bottom compares 2025 Omaha tournaments to their 2024 counterparts. That way you can know if the casinos have made the structures worse or are taking more from the prize pool this year.


I apologize if its been said, but what is an "s point" ? Thanks


It's a metric to analyze the structure of the poker tournament, including starting stack, level increases and blind times. The higher the number the better.

Just pull up this site that is already sorted by S points and you will see.

https://www.rainbowspuppiessunshine.com/...


Thanks Parson. Figured it was something like that, but I didn't know what the numbers meant


by VincentVega m

I apologize if its been said, but what is an "s point" ? Thanks

S Point means Structure Point
Γ‚β€œstructure pointsΓ‚β€œ tells you based on structure sheet (Starting Stack Size
Level Length , Vig % etc

Level Antes/Blinds) if the tournament is tough or fair . How long it will give player chance to play .

Higher the Point is better for player.

Here are some popular events of 2025 WSOP .
Buy -in SPoint
Event 1 $1000 Mystery Bounty. 77.

Event 3. $5000 8 Handed. 162.

Event 19 $500 Colossus. 108.

Event 37 $1500 Monster 162.

Event. 48. $1000 Sr. 133

Event 81. $10000 Main Event . 346.


plog - Thanks for the incredible job in providing this invaluable tool. It's helped me a ton with my planning the last few years that I've gone out for the WSOP. If you have a "tip jar" or something, let me know. I'd be happy to donate, buy you a beer, etc. Great job!!


Plog… are you going to add the WSOP deep stack since their structures are available? I just want to verify that my calculations for the $800 8pm daily is really just 23.


Can you provide a link to them?


Deepstack Structures: https://wsop.gg-global-cdn.com/wsop/50a4...
Satellite Structures: https://wsop.gg-global-cdn.com/wsop/8cb3...


plog - what would you say is the S-point value where it goes from a longish structure to a turbo tournament?


40 S-Points:

https://www.rainbowspuppiessunshine.com/...

That link lists every 2025 tournament with 'turbo' in their title. Disregard all those Wynn duplicates and it seems 40 is the line.


Thanks for putting this together Plog! I've been using your site to assist with choosing what to play so far this WSOP season and it has been immensely valuable. The S value is a tremendous tool and I also appreciate how you clearly list the rake so we can easily compare between similar options.

This is exactly what's needed to help keep Vegas tournaments competitive and player-friendly.


by wordy m

Plog… are you going to add the WSOP deep stack since their structures are available? I just want to verify that my calculations for the $800 8pm daily is really just 23.

Plog… could you please confirm the above? I don’t think you added this tournament to your site. Thanks.


Sorry, I just added the 8pm WSOP daily to the schedule and it's S-Points are 23:

https://www.rainbowspuppiessunshine.com/...


When I get 4 casinos worth of structure data, I will switch my site over to 2026:

https://www.rainbowspuppiessunshine.com/...

Only WSOP has released theirs so far -- so bug everyone else to get theirs out. When they do, post a link to them in this thread so I can incorporate them.


by plog m

When I get 4 casinos worth of structure data, I will switch my site over to 2026:

https://www.rainbowspuppiessunshine.com/...

Only WSOP has released theirs so far -- so bug everyone else to get theirs out. When they do, post a link to them in this thread so I can incorporate them.

MGM is out with schedule




plog than you year after year for your works.

so now we have, wsop, Orleans, mgm schedules out unless im mising another


by the pleasure m

plog than you year after year for your works.

so now we have, wsop, Orleans, mgm schedules out unless im mising another

Ditto to the THANK YOU PLOG
additionally the SCHEDULES are released for
ARIA
Venetian
WYNN
South Point

So we really are just missing GN

Unfortunately most are still without STRUCTURES for Plog to work with to do his magic.


Schedules don't help me.


by plog m

Schedules don't help me.

PLOG are you surprised this or last year way more summer tourneys are way lower buyins than years in the past? what do you make of it?

I did notice A LOT of NLH events being 150-300$ range which is lower than usual to past years I think.

also quite a few 200$ tourneys hovering between 50-55 s-points last year iirc which is pretty impressive or no?


PLOG - MGM STRUCTURES ARE FINALLY OUT https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Q0JY4U_NL0cgWfpbcKsMnzPI71W-hoJ8

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